SIROP combine exile/refugee Program

SIROP combine exile/refugee Program
When will the 21,000 - 25,000 Seychellois exile/refugees get Justice

Saturday 19 December 2009

Dubai World Send world Stock Market tumbling




It has been over 30days since we last visited the Network - reason that we had to go to Seychelles - some of your contributions reactions without you realizing them. All advice was that we ought to wait - there was no time to wait.

Most of you dream of Sechelles - Seychelles as the ultimate destination to get away from the dreadful Europe work, work, work - money, money, money. The very many of you and others who slave away for 12 months to get/afford a holiday and find a place where there is peace, quiet, away for the rat race. Yet the populace do not appreciate their blessings or indeed myself because I did not or had not the time to go fishing, swimming proper or take a proper break, even after four years of hell in Britian.

Some of the very pressing reasons we had to go to Sechelles - Seychelles, the nasty situation in London over the nomination of the first EU President those who know our abilities, responsibilities and had at all cost wanted to manipulate us so that former Prime Minister Tony Blair got nominated, by going to Sechelles -Seychelles he and his entourage could not do this and they did not do it either, we were being closely watched by EU, UN, USA, AU officials, beside Seychelles government and the Catholic and other Christian groups.

Because the world is all about money, the second most important reason was to do with the mega world economic bust up which started last November, resulting in some 65 major Banks in the USA going bust and with it hundreds of $billions. The debacle of the Lehman Brothers/Heinz investment - going to Seychelles in the first place.

There is two side to any coin and what we have been saying for the past 20 years those experts, and officials who have been telling us and the public about only one side of the coin.

To all those who know that Seychelles National Assembly build by the Chinese is completed and what this will mean/spell for the future of Seychelles, the Indian Ocean and AU. I had packed a large suit case, the same one I had taken in 2004 - the ensuing earth quake and Tsunami of 2004/5 our explanation. Those in London who had given me a Polish Masonic book - the Masonic practice since changes in COMECON, a Russian bible gift of the Russian Church in London, a very large wok and a very large French pan - not pot. Beside other papers and documents and lots of poridge. I was not able to take that suitcase to Seychelles on Quatar.

In my anger decided to take only the present I had bought for my family complete prayer - Jewish regalia and the famous seven candles with olive oil for three individuals. My reason - those individuals, they say they are very devout Christians and know their Bible - my message here given they/their ancestors originated from France, they were Templars, the Hugenot bust up and very many other bust up to put it simply. The Christain, Muslim faith originate from not just Abraham, but from Jesus - the state of the world today.

I had brought Heinz to Seychelles, I had brought Lehman Brothers to Seychelles, (the Seychelles Stock Market Project - beside Mauritius, Palestine and others) beside very important multinational, economic issues involving the greater world Jewish interest in Britian, USA, the Middle East and Europe. The real reason they had gone bust. My experience in this field. I wanted to tell those in Seychelles even if I had to come home in pyjama - no food, no money - they are fradulent, they are dishonest along with the IMF, world bank and many other international institutions. Those in the world who are doing the dirty work and they and their media con, manipulate, lies - to the public as if they only can run the world alone. If they dare tell me I am a liar - put on those Jewish religious regalias and raise their hands to heaven in public or in front of me. Along with all the Seychelles Central Bank Officials and the IMF.

For sometime I have been monitoring and watching the situation in Dubai and his Royal Highness the Ruler know I have been watching developement - because he has been in indirect contact with us. I cannot and will not say everything here. I repeat I have the capicity and expertise to contribute very inportantly to positive management of world Markets, monetary systems and this applies to the Guf Region Nations.

Somebody who have worked close to Sir James Mancham came to Seychelles on Saturday - the next day I left Seychelles, the mega corporate debacle we have been involved the past 25 years and the CIA, the KGB, the British Services knowledge. That night Seychelles and world TV announcemment that the Dubai Holding Company would be defaulting on $3.5 billions payment - what this spelt. In private I had requested him to please try and negotiate with the people around the Dubai World corporation about the original fees, payment for my role and contribution in concepting of the so call Dubai world - the British construction company Beatty Balfour. They refused to pay me any money way back in 2001. The many terrible major debacle that have ensued some have made big healdines others not.

The importance of the world mega economic melt down - not the political crap we have been getting, those from the big multinational who have been using and abusing individuals like myself and taking their credits and intellect use and abuse them and then send the dogs or have then killed. The world melt down because of this infernal practice. They can pump as much as they want as long as this practice prevails - we will see the world coming to a stand still.

I have the capacity and expertise to re synergize the Dubai World mega mess and other USA, EU and Asia mess why should I do it can anybody tell me - you ladies and gentleman take the credit, make your $billions and then you send the dogs after me.

I have decide to address this thread on Friends of Europe, because I know that one or some of you may have contact to the Ruler - His Royal Highness the Ruler of the Emirates. Inspite of some fo the terrible issues we have remained friends in such term. Should Sir James Mancham messenger not able to come through make contact and address the issues we have discussed - I am open to discussion.

I have encountered shocking situation in Seychelles, those mega motor yatch almost as high as some of the Seychelles buildings, my meetings with the government officials, Mancham autobiography, the concern in Seychelles by the average people of the terrible direction Seychelles is heading with multinational and rich individuals buying everything. My own family property - that large India Construction company building his very private home almost a big as State House and I do not have even a toilet to my name- yet I worked, contributed importantly that Seychelles changed to a 3rd Republic, the current political and economic syste

m, beside the AU and Indian Ocean. In Seychelles we are supposed to have the capacity to negotiate and take such important contact directly with anybody in the Gulf Region State and the fact that we have to revert to Friend of Europe to address the issues to the global network - something is grossly very wrong. Yet the President J A Michel addressed the FAO and was awarded for his country inovative capability in Lebanon.
Among other important reasons - I had gone to Sechelles - Seychelles to get to meet, talk with President FA Rene. I had travelled with my uncle specially for this. I attempted 11 times to get a meeting and there was always a reason for not making it possible - yet.

I also ask those of you who have been monitoring my affairs and progress - since my return to Britain, the sudden change yet again in many UK greater Financial and economic issues. I had left that large suit case with the Polish Masonic book behind for 30days and the very bad omen when I went to collect it. The emphasis over the Tony Blair eventual trial suddenly the emphasis is on making the Taliban shed tears of blood.


Note: In the greater world of politic and finance - the issues of more troops for Afghanistan, how this reflect on the current developement for the Regional government of the Gulf State to put into place a different world currency. The older Ruler of the Gulf Region we have been privilaged to work with over the past 35 years, many dead. The Oil and US Dollar politic. Those younger generation, present ruler of the Gulf State who believe their wealth, money is everything in the world - they have yet to learn. ( in private we have been very politely asking those young Heads of State to be very careful, not their diplomatic power, wealth controls the world system - there exist other powers and mechanism, the sudden greater interest of the USA, Russia and China, even the AU in so called Seychelles, even the Gulf State Regions, they are talking with the worng party/person , former President FA Rene will/can confirm this) Our past important contributions in those issues and very much so in the future - those in the world who are aware and know - yet the media and politicians other views. Bringing Lehman Brothers to Seychelles - irrespective of Seychelles size in the world, Gulf region, AU, Asia and Mauritius. The emphasis, accent for those in the important financial world how in the past we have worked and contributed major world issues and the new developement in the Gulf State Region, African Union and Asia - proposed EU style system.

This morning 3 weeks before Christmast 2009, the announcement in most of the important British papers that it had cost the British Tax payers £850 billions to bail the Banks - what this amount will be by April 2010. What nobody is saying what this have cost Britain in Economic woes in £billions/trillions. Is anybody listening.

Seychelles History could have been written differeny, the Red Barons in Vienna - one of them the Pisec family.



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Tuesday 8 September 2009

Notes to Global citizen - Sir James Mancham autobiography page

Include: (1976/77)

The Bresnevh era:Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev (Russian: Леони́д Ильи́ч Бре́жнев​ (help·info), 19 December 1906 [O.S. 6 December 1906] – 10 November 1982) was General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (and thus political leader of the Soviet Union) from 1964 to 1982, serving in that position longer than anyone except Joseph Stalin. He was twice Chairman of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet (head of state), from 7 May 1960 to 15 July 1964, then from 16 June 1977 to his death on 10 November 1982.

Fueled by large infusions of Western credit, Poland's economic growth rate was one of the world's highest during the first half of the 1970s . But much of the borrowed capital was misspent, and the centrally planned economy was unable to use the new resources effectively. The growing debt burden became insupportable in the late 1970s, and economic growth had become negative by 1979 .

The state of Europe, the USA, the world, the Signing of Charter 77 what it became. The most prominent opposition to the process of normalization was the movement known as Charter 77. The movement took its name from the title of a document initially circulated within Czechoslovakia in January 1977. Originally appearing as a manifesto in a West German newspaper and signed by 243 Czechoslovak citizens representing various occupations, political viewpoints, and religions, the document by the mid-1980s had been signed by 1,200 people.

Charter 77 (Charta 77 in Czech and in Slovak) was an informal civic initiative in Czechoslovakia from 1977 to 1992, named after the document Charter 77 from January 1977. Founding members and architects were Václav Havel, Jan Patočka, Zdeněk Mlynář, Jiří Hájek, and Pavel Kohout. After the 1989 Velvet Revolution, many of its members played important roles in Czech and Slovak politics. The group was linked to the National Endowment for Democracy



In October 1978 , the Bishop of Kraków, Cardinal Karol Józef Wojtyła, became Pope John Paul II , head of the Roman Catholic Church . Polish Catholics rejoiced at the elevation of a Pole to the papacy and greeted his June 1979 visit to Poland with an outpouring of emotion. { Form then on the paramount importance, influence of the Catholic church – other Interfaith, belief – Muslim involvement in the process}

Autumn 1978 to Autumn 1979, the issues of the COI ( Research by UNIDO/World Bank -IMF, the Indian Ocean Industrial Investment Promotion Center - based on the CARICOM/Pacific RIM Nation Association system) the greater political concept behind it.

On July 1 , 1980 , with the Polish foreign debt at more than $20 billion, the government made another attempt to increase meat prices. A chain reaction of strikes virtually paralyzed the Baltic coast by the end of August and, for the first time, closed most coal mines in Silesia . Poland was entering into an extended crisis that would change the course of its future development.

On 31 August , 1980 , workers at the Lenin Shipyard in Gdańsk , led by an electrician named Lech Wałęsa , signed a 21-point agreement with the government that ended their strike. Similar agreements were signed at Szczecin and in Silesia . The key provision of these agreements was the guarantee of the workers’ right to form independent trade union s and the right to strike. After the Gdańsk agreement was signed, a new national union movement " Solidarity " swept Poland.
The discontent underlying the strikes was intensified by revelations of widespread corruption and mismanagement within the Polish state and party leadership. In September 1980 , Gierek was replaced by Stanisław Kania as First Secretary.

Andrei Andreyevich Gromyko
(Russian: Андре́й Андре́евич Громы́ко; Belarusian Андрэ́й Андрэ́евіч Грамы́ка; July 18 [O.S. July 5] 1909 – July 2, 1989) was a Soviet politician and diplomat. He served as Minister for Foreign Affairs for the Soviet Union (1957–1985) and Chairman of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet (1985–1988).

Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev (Russian: Михаи́л Серге́евич Горбачёв, pronounced, born 2 March 1931) was the second last General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, serving from 1985 until 1991, and the last head of state of the USSR, serving from 1988 until its collapse in 1991. He was the only Soviet leader to have been born after the October Revolution of 1917.

Perestroika

Glasnost

The 1987/88 - SIROP, Exile Return program, CDU, Alliance, DP, MPRD, SNM/MPR, SNP, Parti Seychellois
In spite of the above important events in the former COMECON, the USSR – FA Rene resolve – no change in the One Party government/system.

President Francois Mitterrand, chancellor Bruno Kreisky, Italy Premier Andreotti, German Chancellor Smidt later chancellor Helmut Koln, Ted Heath – Lady Tacther, USA President Ronald Reagen and Irish Premier Charles Haughney!!! Equally important the role played by South Africa Aparthide system in the process until its collapse.

August Coup attempt 1991 Russia.
Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin (Russian: Борис Николаевич Ельцин​ (help·info); Russian pronunciation: (1 February 1931 – 23 April 2007) was the first President of the Russian Federation, serving from 1991 to 1999.
Yeltsin came to power with a wave of high expectations. On 12 June 1991 he was elected president of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic with 57% of the vote, becoming the first popularly elected president. But Yeltsin never recovered his popularity after a series of economic and political crises in Russia in the 1990s.

The RIM Association 1994/5 -1997 Mauritius, greater economic working/integration of the nations of the Indian Ocean, to save the collapse SIROP etc exile return program.

Involved in the process the very important role of the French Arcahic – Fraternal Heritage, likewise Italian, Austrian ( British later) other Central European archaic/fraternal Heritage. Europe then and those involed – individuals like Dr Otto Von Hapsburg.

Equally important 20 years after the change – the SIROP etc exile return program the collapse, meltdown of the global banking system. Some 60 major banks in the USA. Collapse. Melt down in Western, USA economic – democratic values. In Seychelles World Bank demand the People call for Account some $2.8 billions plus 15% -20% above, which have gone missing.

1999 -2002, On account of the missing $2.8 billions, plus some 15% - 20% on top. The state of the world, OAU working, economic, politic. Our ability to understand aspects of the greater working of the world, mechanism - commitments, process which had gone on in EU and the OAU left behind - that OAU, the African system be made a suit modelled on the EU System - how President Ghadaffi got involved and why, the African Union. The $500/$800 billions Africa debt write off issues. Where have all the money gone. The debate had been going on since 1999.

Tuesday 1 September 2009

The Church, religious communities have played, been involved in politics

We have stated we have a fairly important religious – spiritual involvement globally, part of what we have termed Network and their involvement in that Historic infamous SIROP etc Exile refugee Return program of 19787/88, the COMECON changes, USSR change, Germany Reunification, the process in OAU to African Union and Latin America, China.

The Church, religious communities have played, been involved in politics, manipulated politics since the concept of Church and politic – then turn round deny any – their involvement, threaten their members, leadership, participants will all kinds of God, Heaven sent punishments, curses, disasters, calamities, generation calamities, families calamities in the practice, process to control, manipulate events, issues, due process, personalities, thinking process, intellectual capacity to shed light on a given spiritual or religious issue – the methods and such practice in history is very voluminous and records abound. This does not stop this terrible and hideous practice by those who say, purport they are the shepherds of Gods people, their faith, Soul and spirituality.

We have written one or two articles on certain aspect of going on relevant to a particular Church, issues that have come out in the greater media since the above Historic events 20 years ago. What many may term as their spin, certain spin practice or use of spin then - how over the months and years those who lacking the real spiritual dimension, gift, God direction to attract folks to their church, sermons have been spinning or putting a particular spin, slant on events to say – purport their particular brand of belief and Christian practice fellowship is better than another one. In perusing this dreadful practice those who have argued they have been keeping in line with political requirement, social progress, they have the divine rights to preach such in the name of God or the church doctrine. The consequences, the results, backlashes and state of the church, quality of spiritual belief and practices – those who wonder and have wondered why the church and many Christian followers are in such state, the state of the society and the world.

Among those involved in such - this dreadful practice is a particular Christian Grouping – denomination without to mention name for the past 25 years in Britain. When one is involved in very important National, International political, economic, monetary, scientific issues because of ones ability, expertise, responsibilities, connections or standing as a Christian the relevancy, need and practice to share some if not many aspects of a given issue or issues going on at the time. In turn their support, prayers, engagement collective corporate, individual or a church with branch churches in other parts of the world, Europe. The impact, results and outcome of its effect on a given or ongoing sets of issues. Even to go as far as stating those who term such impacts as miracles, God important hand in such issues or sets of issues, faith and the strength of one, collective, national or transnational belief.

Beside the impact, importance on the daily functioning, life, its members and going on, growth of a church, denomination, again national, international or regional – this facing the competition and challenges of other faith, denomination, religious practices, belief and groupings. In term of public, the public media, the politicians, political institutions and other national relevant institutions, a government, political parties. Should the issues or set of issues be important enough i.e. of historic dimension such international bodies, like the UN and very many important interfaith, interchurch, Aid agencies which exist and perform in the name of mankind and humanity, democracy, justice, freedom. Their importance and self-awareness, emancipation – the way the public and none Christian see them and view them.

Here we are talking about events of the COMECON and ongoing on to today, the same events and process in the USSR, China former OAU, Latin America, and the Arab world and Asia continents. The Oceans.

There has been the belief and practice that because one form part of a given faith or belief, their church, denomination doctrine that such issues or set of issues that have been presented, involved them, be it prayers, devotions, conferences or large faith and interfaith events such as congress and conferences. Their rights to claim credits, for their involvement and inputs and the person/individual group and network is given less or no credit, importance, relevancy. Resulting in a very devious, duplicity, abnormal state of practice if one can cal it democratic practice at all. This again have been practice and going on for the past 20 years and the state of things.

The large none believing world, none church attending population, the public media and many other news media may indeed have wondered and wonder what is going on and what has been going on – what kind of spiritual practice and development is this in term of society, the greater politic and responsibility if not accountability to mankind and its relevant or many institutions. The very strange many development to what many have termed the over the edge or the precipice the none church and believing part of a populace have reached and attained as results. Let alone their impact on the Youth or the socially handicap part of the populace. Those who know of what is going on at the time and its impacts and how it will affect the future and history.

We have hand written or typed and photo copied a large among of issues or sets of issues, relevant and going on at the time of given time of the process in former COMECON, the USSR, Germany Reunification, changes in China, Latin America, OAU, the Arab world, the Oceans and Asian subcontinents. With out like abound on the web to write and publish them for the large mass – our belief then that only those we deem need to know ought to be informed. There is no need to create and cause conflicts or undue conflicts if it can be avoided.

Along the existence of others, armies of institutions, networks, bodies, individuals who have been involved, aware, have knowledge of the issues or given sets of issues, the many media or even the gutter media as we have often mentioned. Their involvement equally, monitor, accountability mechanism, benchmark system and due process, scientific, statistic, information gathering, those whose specialty or work to record and preserve such information on a given issue or set of issues related to the above.

Contrary to what is said, belief – most if not all of these religious denomination, grouping, church, regional and international – they need money, small and large corporate business interest, they have interest. Call and name it what you want – their members need money and some kind of positive economy environment to live and exist. In the case and everybody know with those above issues a given issue or set of issue we have presented, worked and involved a denomination or church their knowledge. The wellbeing of their church members, denomination or group of church, national and international - they all need and require wealth and money, prosperity and affluence. The very reason they come to church, get involved and do what they do to achieve this aim and objective – even if it is done in the name of faith, belief and Godly reasons.

Equally the Christian, spiritual practice, they need that better job, that much more money, that new car, that new item, that new travel, that new education, that new project, that new House, that new saving on and on. Yet the absurdity, terrible Christian practice – standard as a collective Christian body, many congregation church, local, regional and international - they need or have good reason to heed that specific amount of money, wealth etc as stated above – the very person and individual who is the owner, leader, purveyor, inventor or thinker of the issue or given set of issues. He has none of the above needs, he must not have and the church, denomination or groups of Christian will see to it that he has not the need. This practice have been going on for the past 20 years again the none Christian part of the populace, the media, the politicians and many national and international institutions, bodies, networks, communities other religious denominations view, anger, protest and abhorrence of the going on.

Our Sechelles, Seychelles EU Communities is a Christian community in EU and the world. The important role of our ancient fathers, founders they started the spreading or form part of the spreading of Christian belief in France, then old Europe, Britain and other parts of European continent, the world.

Most church, Christian domination, profess that they preach the only truth – how they go about this in reality. They are God light on earth – yet the reality. Again those churches, those from certain church and Christian denomination who have presented and shed their version of god light on an issue, given issues or set of issues. Depending on their church doctrine and belief and to certain almost whims.

In short until 2005/6 when most exile communities, ethnic communities in Europe as governed by the laws and regulation of the EU, international refugee or such institutions, national parliament. We the Sechelles – Seychelles EU community, those aspect of our exile and refugee communities did not have media access, had not made a written case, presented a written documentation of the exile program and the political process associated, meaning the COMECON events, the USSR, the German Reunification, changes in China, Asian sub continent, the OAU, the Arab world and the Oceans. Because of exclusion, lack of resource – the very dishonest political, diplomatic state of things in the world when it come to such issues and situation, need, we had taken to discussing by mouth, one to one meetings, notes and because of our Christian belief, our ancestral archaic, fraternal, illuminati, ancient political practice and knowledge – not the need, important trust that there exist mechanisms, systems which can record, are there to record, take care and inform history and posterity what an issues was all about or given sets of issues with our massive distortions , lies, spins and corruption.


The state of the world, the way the world and those involved saw us our involvement’s and accounts of events in the COMECON, the USSR, Germany Reunification, changes in China, OAU, Latin America, the Ocean, Asian subcontinent, the Arab regions until 2005/6. We decided to press, demand that such important historic involvement by a small community in EU be duly addressed, catalogued, process and saved for posterity - those from the British Voluntary agencies who know what took place and was taking place at the time – the position of the politicians, the media and the church equally. The decision to create the project of Refugee and exile History in London/Britain, to allocate funds, to select the due project of a refugee community, to provide expertise of how to document such project – then the communities or community themselves and their leadership, nation, media and many other institutions involvement’s. What would make that community exile /refuge history project unique form another. Then came the editing aspects and finally the publishing. Because we did not fall, lack numerous requirements, management committee, edited community accounts etc was not eligible and did not get the Funding.

Given this state of things – the agencies involved, the Sainsbury Trust and the Evelyn Old field Unit and very many other we had discussed our situation and needs including the very church and religous denomination - in instance prayed about it. Our request that we would like to have support, advice and guidance to proceed independently – our community knowledge, training connection and network across the EU, the EU relevant and international institutions, the Francophone, the Commonwealth, the inter faith – church institutions. Equally that of OAU, Latin America, Asia and Russia. We also warned – stated that instead of a so call well defined exile/refugee history project we would be setting our own rules, guideline and project references, the outcome. It will not please everybody – we stated that we may find our self in the forest or have wondered/got lost in the forest for those who understand the implication and meaning of things.

We began to set out and map out our own project in 2005/6 in the form of Seychelles EU Connection community portal project. Again having addressed the exclusion to many important EU agencies, media, court etc. Countless debate and discussions the issues we addressed the very church and congregations and the Catholic Church equally. The forums and the media the whole world. The approach and methodology we decided to use. Equally the funding, money resource to be used and available – if any, this in the face of a great historic – unparalleled in modern history phenomena and development. What really took place.
That portal project has/have been set up to function like the SEYNEWS project where those interested and relevant group of individuals can get involved, they can have access to their own log in system, edit and publish. These have never taken place and materialize - the why and those involved. Hence alternative approach to gather information on what took place and is relevant to our Sechelles - Seychelles EU community past present and the future.

The meter mechanism is not telling the truth because of the page link – the actual visitor since we have decided to publish the project is near to 10, 000 visitors if not more over the past three years.

What have caused and made us write this article is certain development. We have stated that there exist in Britain, OAU a block of people, communities that dislike what we have publish, the issues we have mentioned, the archaic, fraternal, ancestral heritage of our Sechelles - Seychelles EU community, those who complain about racism, exclusion they were and became the very one to begin practicing exclusion and racism, hatred against our Seychelles – Seychelles EU community for what we had publish and the way we had gone about the project. We have equally addressed the UN institutions, relevant EU, meanwhile African Union, Francophone and the Commonwealth.

This particular Christian and church denomination proportion of black member ship in Britain and elsewhere. What we have protested and tried to expose as abuse, threats, bullying and the such. Their attempt via the church, Christian practice to claim benefit, good will, to score point that they have been important involved in the process and as church leaders and responsibilities – those that exclude our participation and involvement’s. The dreadful state of things. Massive and grob manipulation.

Because of the way, approach and contents of the Sechelles – Seychelles EU community portal project, from those church leaders and members our unchristian stand and practice – displayed in very many forms. Most important recently the too often mention and bible reading of the book of Malachite – the prophet Eisai and King Hezekia. The historic part of the ancient Jewish history, politic, lore – what really took place in History and why. King Hezekia is taken very ill – sick almost on his deathbed – and is confronted by his God and belief, that he is about to die – meet his savior. The brief recounts that he challenges God, he protest and present God his past good deeds. God, the almighties decision to give him an extra 15 years to his life. The matter not ending there – the king barley recovered from death receive important political delegation and visitors or surrounding nation, enemies and friends. To impress his visitors and dignitaries, their generals and head show them the glory of the then Jewish kingdom, the military wares, the riches and treasure of the Jewish people. The delegation had barely left when the Prophet Esia goes to confront the king the practice then of the role of the prophet in Israel – demanding what the king had showed the visiting delegations. The king gave an account of what he had showed ask, requested be shown to the visiting dignitaries and delegations. Esaia reply – those of your interested please read the fully chapter and story depending the Bible version you read from. What really happened and what is not told and later history recount and discovered – archeology and excavations.

Time and times again over the past six months we have herd this sermon, the issues raised and discussed - because we have addressed the information, archaic, fraternal, illuminati, Christian, Masonic, historic and ancestral European heritage of our Sechelles - Seychelles EU community the way we have done on a single portal project.

For those who work research, educated and use the WWW there abound massive amount of information, knowledge, details histories equally illuminati, Christian, religious, archaic, Masonic, historic, archaeology, scientific etc very great amount of information on a give community set of people, group of people and individuals. This is today’s world of information. The strong allegory that because of our Christian belief, association the allegory applies to our person, a warning or whatever as many would say. Equally terrible and damming the practice – of those very same Christians – their use of what we have termed criminal – unscrupulous, antisocial practice – not just the spin - the use and abuse of rave rage to harm, cause ill, to cause death and such malaise on their fellow Christian. Those from that same church and denomination who have been using the same criminal and dreadful practice to cause ill to ourselves, countless personal difficulties - evoking such malaise as cancer, diseases in the name of god and Christian practice. The involvement of other unchristian powers without mentioning names.

We have decided to write and publish this issues because of the tension and stress it is causing, the state of society and public accountability. Those who do not know and are not aware of the going on and the terrible practice and harm it is doing and causing. Most important the development in that church or certain denomination to claim credit for the election of President Barack Obama – their faith and Christian belief – we wrote and warned of the euphoria at the time and what is and will come and what will ensue given some 20 years knowledge and experience in those similar issues.

Having played such important role, taken such important responsibilities – we have amassed experience and knowledge of how the church, Christian work and function – when they have supported a good cause the impact of n the greater community, nationally and world wide – the same when they have shown their concern for an issue and protested the above process – the fact that to achieve this they have relied and use mass collective support, sympathy and resource – whey they say or purport - one have become a King Hezekia in bracket the same practice and process by part or element of that Christian denomination community to prove their point or achieve their objective. The greater public reaction and the gutter press and the criminals out there – are waiting such situation and moment. The practice and process of destabilization by the church or Christian group and bodies for their reason or given reason or motives as is currently taking place. Not to exclude the many church leaders and pastor their viewpoint and brand of leadership of the issues and set of given issues related above.

Equally atrocious and outrageous, the process of sharing certain vital information knowledge as Christian with fellow Christian, information which will bring down a parliament, will cause the national Intelligence service to take serious action and many more other important issues - one share it in the course of such events and issues with fellow Christian and the present development and state of thing – the gross dishonesty and immorality. To prevent us from informing the world of what really took place. We must ignore, disregard, dishonor - betray our heritages such method and practice, revert to such method. Yet their own publication and information system – media, those involve with them in this criminal practices.

Most important we were travelling on the train and those who sensed and concerned that we were going through a terrible situation and moment the article published in the Guardian 28.08.09 on the Scientology practice in France and the many important Court cases, the similarity and practices. Those who left the article on the seat on the train and we picked it up and read it thoroughly. Our own knowledge and research and respective responsibilities in interfaith in the world. What information is available on the web.

Wednesday 26 August 2009

Our community in EU and the USA have lost a very great friend

The Kennedy family Wikipedia


The life of Edward Kennedy

Veteran US Senator Edward Kennedy, the brother of former President John F Kennedy, has died at 77, after a long battle with a brain tumour.

He became a Democratic Massachusetts senator in 1962, replacing his brother when he resigned to become president, and was re-elected seven times.

Senator Kennedy was a dominant force in US politics for almost 50 years.

President Barack Obama, of whom he was an active supporter, said he was "heartbroken" to hear of his death.

"An important chapter in our history has come to an end," he said in a statement.

"Our country has lost a great leader, who picked up the torch of his fallen brothers and became the greatest United States senator of our time."

The liberal lion's mighty roar may now fall silent, but his dream shall never die


Later, in a televised tribute, Mr Obama described him as one of the "most accomplished Americans to serve our democracy".

Senator Kennedy had championed issues such as education and healthcare, central to Mr Obama's first term.

In 2006, Time magazine named him as one of America's "Ten Best Senators", saying that he had "amassed a titanic record of legislation affecting the lives of virtually every man, woman and child in the country".

The BBC's Richard Lister in Washington says Senator Kennedy, known affectionately as Teddy, will be remembered as one of the most effective and popular legislators in American history.


President Obama was leading the tributes, saying that Senator Kennedy was the greatest US senator of our time.

But the praise was coming from right across the political divide. The Republicans were also praising him, saying that he was the kind of man that you couldn't help but like even if you disagreed with him.

That kind of praise has been echoing across the morning shows - they all broke into special coverage of the kind that is normally reserved for when former presidents die.

But of course all of the coverage has also included the controversies in Edward Kennedy's life, not least of all the death of Mary Jo Kopechne at Chappaquiddick bridge in 1969.

Our correspondent says he was also skilled at forging alliances across party lines: pushing an education initiative with President George W Bush, and immigration reform with Republican John McCain.

But he was a fierce critic of the Bush administration, in particular over Iraq and the prisoner abuse scandal.

He will also be remembered as a staunch supporter of Irish Republicanism - at one time calling for British troops to leave Northern Ireland - although he was later involved in the peace process leading to the Good Friday Agreement.

Senate Majority leader Harry Reid said the Kennedy family and the Senate had "together lost our patriarch".

This is the cause of my life... Now the issue has more meaning for me - and more urgency - than ever before, but it's always been deeply personal, because the importance of healthcare has been a recurrent lesson throughout most of my 77 years
Edward Kennedy

Senator Kennedy's Newsweek article on healthcare, July 2009

"The liberal lion's mighty roar may now fall silent, but his dream shall never die," he said.

UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown said that Senator Kennedy would be "mourned not just in America but in every continent".

"Even facing illness and death, he never stopped fighting for the causes which were his life's work.

"I am proud to have counted him as a friend."

'Joyous light'

Dawn broke over Washington's Capitol building, the home of the Senate, with the US flag flying at half mast.

The Kennedy family announced Senator Kennedy's death in a brief statement in the early hours of Wednesday.


EDWARD MOORE KENNEDY
1932 Born, youngest of nine children
1962 Becomes country's youngest senator
1963, 1968 Brothers President John F Kennedy and Senator Robert F Kennedy both assassinated
1969 "Chappaquiddick incident" - Kennedy flees scene after road crash in which his young passenger dies
1980 Runs unsuccessfully for Democratic nomination against sitting President Jimmy Carter

"Edward M Kennedy, the husband, father, grandfather, brother and uncle we loved so deeply, died late Tuesday night at home in Hyannis Port (Massachusetts)," the statement said.

"We've lost the irreplaceable centre of our family and joyous light in our lives, but the inspiration of his faith, optimism, and perseverance will live on in our hearts forever."

Edward Kennedy was the only one of four brothers not to die a violent death.

His brother Joseph was killed in an air crash in World War II, and both President John F Kennedy and presidential hopeful Robert F Kennedy were assassinated in the 1960s.

He was widely expected to be the next Kennedy in the White House, but he was never able to fully overcome the scandal caused in 1969, when he drove a car off a bridge at Chappaquiddick near his home, killing his female passenger.

The incident helped derail his only presidential bid, more than a decade later.

But he remained active in politics right up until his death, famously endorsing Barack Obama for the Democratic nomination during a tight race with Hillary Clinton last year.

At his death, he was the third longest serving senator in US history.

Last week, he asked the Massachusetts governor to change state law to allow a speedy succession when his Senate seat became vacant.

Analysts suggest that Senator Kennedy feared a lengthy gap could deny Democrats a crucial vote on Mr Obama's flagship health reform.

His death comes weeks after that of his older sister, Eunice Kennedy Shriver, on 11 August.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8221686.stm

Beside the one sentence obituary we wrote at AKS after being requested that we need to be more forwarding if that is the "proper English" We had written an important obituary to Senator Edward Kennedy - suddenly the whole power system blackout and obviously lost everything we had thoughtfully written. We are now endevouring to rewrite this obituary article - being more mindful what we state in the process. So we do not cause another blackout.

Very many will ask/may ask why did/have we waited after the person an important person like Senator Edward Kennedy died for us to write what we are about to. It is not proper.

In certain Circles, jargons to take a page from Sir James Mancham several years ago - there is a time for everything.

Our connection to the Kennedy family relates to archaic, fraternal - Christian, the election in the USA then, War issues, the Kennedy young politicians. The election of John F Kennedy. Political events, the tragic assassination of the President and events which ensued until I was compel to go onto exile with my Austrian wife - who had worked a Pirate's Arms recruited by the Von Oswald family - Austria.

The next important moment/time this link - connection was used was my decision to research the concept for an Indian ocean Industrial Investment and promotion Center. The position of those we had discussed the Seychelles then political situation, the state of things in the Indian Ocean, the region, the world and events related to our exile community in Britain and France.

The research had been based upon the working of the CARICOM system then and the Pacific Group of small nations, many discussions in Vienna - then Vienna Interdisciplinary Management Institute, Professor Micheal Hoffman, other important government officials, the media. other government representation in Vienna. Important businessman in Vienna with important business working connection around the world and Africa.

There were/are a few who knew and were aware of certain workings and connections individuals associated in the USA, the UN, Africa, India and the middle East.

Equally important, the election of Pope John Paul ll and events in the Communist/Socialist world, the COMECON, USSR and OAU - the Dockers Strike. development. The failed attempt in Seychelles and London. My involvement in more complex - problematic, challenging issues of Seychelles beside Economic, management and diplomacy. One needs important personalities in the given places. Those who knew and were aware of our connections then.

From a different prospective, again for those who have known certain important USA working system in high politic, diplomacy, economy, scientific sphere, religious matters, ethnic issues. The working of the UN Institutions, those appointed - how one get appointed by whom and for what reasons.

Many have asked - question how we managed to communicate such issues we have to very important and influential USA personalities and politicians, economist and Presidents. They require special training and knowledge. Hence when over the years we have presented the topics of the then Communist/COMECON, events, the then situation in the USSR, development and Perestroika, the Fall of the Berlin Wall - Germany reunification. The privatization of Russian economy. On our part the important connections with certain high parties in the USA - these included Senator Edward Kennedy.

Equally the very many important issues we have lent a hand, contributed in EU since 1977, then President Francois Mitterrand, his knowledge of what was going on and who was involved. Later President Jacques Chirac and numerous leading EU politicians and the Commission officials.

We have mentioned our important relation with the Irish people in Australia, USA, France and elsewhere - those who know and have known how they work - the many important crises and our relation.

During the sometime bitter relation between Lady Tacther Ministers, Officials - the important support we got from those parties in the USA. Including the Office time of John Major and later Prime Minister Blair.

In any given crises one need strong and influential personalities on can rely/relate - the Balkan wars, the Kuwait invasion, the last Iraq war, Lebanon conflicts, other regional conflicts.

Equally important, given our belief - the situation - issues which led to the first Live Aid - Ethiopia famine, Bod Geldof, the important relation of the Kennedy family involvement from our side to get things working.

Most important the SIROP etc exile return program - who were those important USA politicians involved and gave us their support, from the UN - Senator Edward Kennedy was one of those important personality. Even when those from the USA, UN, EU and the Commonwealth tried by all means to take the Program from us and share it with other Seychelles exile politicians, Sir James Mancham and others. Individual like Senator Edward Kennedy knew they would fail - because of long working relation, knowledge of certain abilities, expertise.

From our prospective the past 18 years, since multi party have returned to Seychelles, changes in South Africa, the Arab Region, Central Europe and the EU itself - the importance of this connection and relation. There have been moment when we have been alone - the early years of President Bush, what took place and the last two years of Prime minister Blair turn of Office.

Hence over the years our Sechelles - Seychelles EU community have been building and reinforcing this special working relation and the important goodwill involved. They have not always bee rosy.

We do trust the younger Kennedy generation would have been informed of such issues, the special good will and how they have come about. For those of you reading these for the first time - be it Russia, China, the Arab world, African Union - we have endevoured to state very briefly for hose who wants to question how our important relation with the Kennedy family.

The very many important tribute and obituary coming in via the global TV station, radio and web. The need on our part to mention just a few issues.

There are very many important issues we have omitted to mention.

Seychelles International, Military Airport at Northeast Point


What to do about an eyesore?

The abandoned shell of a huge concrete building at Soleil D’Or, North-East Point, has been an eyesore for years. According to reports, the owners met with financial difficulties after the start of the construction and have not been able to resume the project.
While authorities cannot just step in and do away with an abandoned building project, there has to be a way of dealing with cases that become an eyesore. This one has been there for around 15 years now.
Source: Regar 8-21-09



There are one or two articles of noteworthy this week at Seychelles e-news one of them being the above article – indeed answers need to be provided.

After the Second world War – the Land which belonged to Mrs Steven had been used as a military dump – part of that stretch of land. For all its beauty.

During the Second world war – the strategic look out position to ships and such movement intending to come to Seychelles for water etc and rest for their sailors.

We have not come across older written issues and certainly – we have every rights to join those youth who have questioned why were they not taught certain important historic and national issues. During the bitter rivalry between the French and the British. The strategicness of the place – its commanding view of the Harbour.

About the time of Sir James Mancham premiership several investors were interested in that stretch of land along the cost. The debate then about the acquisition of the property by a German/Swiss business Mr Bantely – his daughter married Mr George Lefevre. The plans and proposition for a major tourist development.

Equally important the debacle of Hotel des Seychelles, owner Mr Jerry Legrand – upon selling the Hotel des Seychelles, He purchased from Mrs Steven that very beautiful part of North East Point property. Where as children, the families, the merchants communities and the SDA Church held their picnic form time to time.

There were and have been other national, historic debacles involving the Bonntard Family – Chief Justice Retardation how the lands were acquired in those days.

For history – the most important debate about that stretch of land from the Tip to where the Bonnetard lived. The debate and decision to introduce and develop Tourism in Seychelles as an economic viable step. The Colonial British government, the SDP, the Party of Mrs Delhomme, the Party of FA Rene – SPUP and other political factions.

The debate whether to build the Seychelles International airport on that stretch of Land. Or at Point Larue, the land of the Nageon des L'etempt, the D'offay, the Sovage, the Roullion, the Jubb family, the Cundell, Benson, the Lafrotune and others, Judge Stiven, further towards Victoris, the Stravens, the Ernestine, Lafrotune, the Golden Eggs family - Esparon, the Mondon, the English family next to the Church of England – great stamps collector, the Albert and other small property owners.

The argument against Northeast Point as the plan was called.
During the Monsoon the very strong cross wind – the very grave danger this would pose, landing and takeoff.
The noise level as the plan landed and took off for the in habitants of Victoria.
The issues of dredging – damage, this would cause to the reef system.

Point Larue in spite of heavy protest and compensation if any to be paid was chosen. Those from the Town Planning Department role including Mr Gerrard Houreau, Mr Harold Rene and others. The SDP and then First Minister James Mancham.

Beginning 1979 after the Attempted coup by the South African Mercenary, the methods they used to get to Seychelles. The stationing of Tanzania military, Cuban, Soviet in Seychelles. The military organs of the Island Republic, intelligence, special unit etc. the debate which had began to arise about the safety and danger of Tourist using Seychelles International airport. With all the military activities – the negative impact on the Tourist. The then debate by the Ministers, political and military elite of the SPPF government of building an alternative military Air port and the most obvious available place would be North East Point. It would be much smaller than the International Air Port.

This plan kept coming on and off the Table – be it by FA Rene, government, the foreign parties involved, the Soviet, the Chinese, those form OAU, the Arab nations, the Cubans.

The Seychelles Exile communities have put /planned at least five major attempts to change the government and Island by Force. Those involved equal debate about the wisdom of having military activities at the Seychelles International Airport, the public and the Tourist and the International communities. Hence had the funds become available those in favor for this project. It would also have provided the new government an alternative – securer place to land military equipments, troops, joint exercise in the eventuality that the Seychelles International Air port became under other control – counter coup and the such. The funds and cost involved were grossly calculated. With all the necessary infrastructures.

We have provided a list of the Projects and program which were to be implemented under the SIROP etc other political faction joined. Again one of the project would have been a separate military airport at North East Point.

We have had a very efficient Soviet/Russian Embassy in Seychelles, French presence, British, South African, USA and Chinese. Even if they were not there Officially. Those who know that when you put together an International Exile/refugee or repatriation program – even if they are not put on paper, the ideas, get discussed around by those with vested interest.

The Interest of the Russian after the fall of the COMECON, China, the USA. Come the announcement that Seychelles would become a multi- party nation. Suddenly – those parties close, friends and associate of the former SPPF regime who began to acquire strategic properties, location in Seychelles.

For what the international media, the USA, EU, African media and the national media have been informing the public. The very many important issues the public not aware off. The German Reunification had taken place and changes had taken place- Perestroika in Soviet Union. Those from Russia who decided to acquire that strategic part- point of Seychelles. The politicians and government active participation.

When we visited Seychelles in 2000 first time from exile construction had began. Some of the debate of those who have wealth to build and design their place of residence to include a Military Bunker in the eventuality of a Nuclear war or such.

Further up the road the former Property of W&C French which was acquired by Mr Jamshed Oliaghi member of the Temooljhi family merchant.

Meanwhile there have been a number of large development and construction taking place. Most important the Reclamation – Phase lll development of Seychelles by FA Rene, the debate and question at the time of the project to leave a channel for the fisherman to still being able to use their boat, the properties affected, including that of Mr Ben Choppy. The Island reclaimed by the South African, Pinnacle Holding for the mega Seychelles development. Not to overlook and forget the project, planning details for a High Way/Motor way along that stretch of land linking to the Reclaimed Island – the Pinnacle Holding development and the proposed light Transport System from South to North of the Island.

This project and future reclamation to increase Land capacity have brought to an end any idea or debate of an eventual Military Air port or second Air port – for whatever use/function.

We trust readers will point our brief thread to the Russian developers and the many in Seychelles concern what will happen to the place in the future.

By now very many in Seychelles, internationally – that include Russia and former COMECON nation that in Seychelles we have the abilities and capacity to influence a given issues or their related problematic in a positive or given direction of our nation choosing and decision.

Monday 20 July 2009

Pope Benedict right arm accident - historic Polish/exCOMEC ON 1st EU Parliament President

The SIROP etc Blog is to do with events, process, development and those involved before, during the changes in former Communist countries, WARSAW Pact and the COMECON. Equally events in the USSR, EU, Africa, the Indian Ocean, the Gulf Region, Latin America and Asia.

We have made it a project to update with issues, news and events we think are relevant and important. It would have been of great help those who read what we have addressed here to make their comments.

Prior to the mega global financial and economic melt down, because of the great importance of the Church - the Vatican played in contributing to the unparalleled peaceful changes in the former COMECON, USSR, OAU, the Indian Ocean.

Because of the role and important the Catholic church and its institutions play in the life of the population of the earth - from the interfaith, interdisciplinary, the global diplomatic prospective concern about its stand and position prior to what took place. Including political, economic, social, religious issues and their development in Germany and the EU. The issues which were affected.

Unlike the era and Office of Pope John Paul ll, the many important and complex political issues affecting the world and greater world politic. The position of the Church - its preoccupation with the issues of faith and church doctrine. Yet the terrible political system, benchmark, practice was allowed to run their course so to say until the mega blow up. Most important those political leaders, parties and institutions inventing enemies, the public propaganda of the many threats they say in society. There by building in their mind a special position as defender of the world and greater public interest - when all along they have been practicing outrageous political deceit and corruption.

One very good example of this is for instance the political, social development in Germany and their inter EU functioning. Those, the media and the very many who either decided to take it for granted the Head of the Catholic church was a German and as such like Pope John Paul ll, the very important significance, impact and relevancy - influencing factors. These are aspect of things we have preferred to state a "double bench mark". In acknowledging such issues, process and impacts what they would be acknowledging and their preference not to either admit or state this.

As a result the very many malfunctioning in the German normally smoothly run system be it in politic, diplomacy or economy.

Again, the vast majority who refused to acknowledge this, the impact of this situation at the last EU election in Germany. The German voters, the media role and the so call experts and analyst and many discussions.

Not to be overlooked, the important role and function of Germany in the daily politic of the EU and this impacting the greater EU politic and the world. The the commissioner, and President of EU Parliament.

We have written threads on Austria financial situation and economic development and issues related to the initial events of what took place in Vienna/Austria which influenced process in the COMECON and those, the German media and in turn the so call world media role in manipulating and conning the world.

Most important the situation prior to the mega world financial meltdown in those former COMECON countries. What the media and politicians and EU leaders refused and failed to tell the EU citizens. Important the role of German politicians , its institutions.

Shortly after President Obama first visit to EU and the EU Parliament, Strasbourg. The situation then. The famous telephone conversation of Prime Minister Berlosconi, the photo delays - the political state of things. All those from the media, the EU and most important the Church - Vatican who failed to do something from the massive protest on other media, blogs, forums, etc. They listened to the voice of the so call world official news media.

The massive earthquake which occurred in L'aquila - Italy and the massive devastation. Those form the church in Vatican who know what other force is at work here and why.

One week prior to the G8 Summit there, the Vatican, Pope Benedict decision to publish the church document and assessment of what cause, the problematic of the mega world financial melt down, economic and other wise, the result of the EU election.

We have stated our view on the issues of one world Government. Most important those who even dare to present former Prime Minister Tony Blair as a candidate for the future EU President if and when the Lisbon Treaty is ratify.

Beside the Iraq sham his politic of control, his agenda and those around him to marginalize the role, work, responsibilities in EU and world affairs, supporting dishonest politic and media practice. Creating fear in the mind of citizens so that NGO are almost treated as enemy of the EU and its institutions - demanding and promoting laws to marginalize their involvements. What they had achieved and mega contribution to build the EU, Changes in the COMECON, the USSR, Africa and other parts of the world.

We do not believe it necessary to comment on the G8 Summit here. We have elsewhere.

Hence after the EU election the fragmentation, the German citizen accessement of the politicians, be they EU and other wise. Suddenly the lack of leadership role in the EU politic which had been the role of Germany. The commissioner position, comments. The direction they had/have been leading EU. { We have written a number of threads on our community forums of our EU issues which have influenced and impacted the German politic, economy and events for the past 25 years how this have come about and why. Those who believe to ignore it either spin, cover up or just plod their own way through has they would say in English. The consequences of this.

We have followed the important fight to reorganize, put in place some kind of sanity in the EU Parliament and its institutions and system as they would say. The out come. { They still have not come to term, solve the important issues, what to do, how to go about the lack of greater role, importance of NGO in the affairs or the EU, including the Parliament - the media involvement. Equally the new face and new political constellations.

We are adding a link of the announcement of the vote and first Polish historic EU Parliament president Jerzy Buzek- former COMECON countries. We have also viewed our concern, beside the lack or refusal to admit and accept the important role our Sechelles - Seychelles EU community had to play and played in the changes of the COMECON, the Warsaw Pact, the USSR, Germany Reunification. Events in the Indian Ocean, Gulf Region, Asia, OAU. The tendency of those form former Solidarnos to reinvent what took place, the media support, those it suits them to promote and propagate that version of world events, forgetting before they came MEP, they were simple workers and strikers, not even proper NGO as such. The arrogance of bing MEP and the media circus and those at the Eu Institutions who support such practice and double standards.

These same people like Tony Blair WMD, the issues of Iran threats to Poland or NATO. The polish US politic using that to climb over other EU member state.

The most important reason for this thread we believe is the accident to Pope Benedict after the announcement of the Polish first EU Parliament president. His right arms. Across the ages and since the existence of the Church those who have the capacity, ability, insight to understand, weigh, interpret such events, accidents and what they are telling us or trying to tell us. Here we have not the Head of European Bank or the such and if such accident would have happen to them the meaning.

When Pope John Paul ll was alive and in Office even at the very last moment of his life he never deny or created media manipulative scenario which deny very important facts and events, contributions the Sechelles - Seychelles EU community had made, contributed in the affairs, development of events in Poland other countries, the USSR. He just preferred in most instance to let only those who need to know what they need to know and we respected and appreciated his position - beside as Head of the Catholic church. Our Sechelles, Seychelles, Mauritius, Reunion - Pied Noirs, French ancestral, archaic. fraternal and important workings. At the time the heavy broadside we received from President Francois Mitterrand, the French Masonic establishment and other French institutions that we had betrayed them and our ancestors by using what we had been entrusted to help, contribute to the process and changes and they had come , would come the looser, less off as they say in good English.

We have equally complained bitterly in public, to the EU institutions of being pirated, being robbed, being rip off, being raided by those who have taken credit for our community hard work in Eu and given them to the Seychelles government, Mauritius and Reunion. We languish in a terrible EU mess. The existence of our EU community and organs.

At least when Pope John Paul ll was there - given the enormity of his Office, he took time and those around took time to come to our support and aid. When we got to badly trodden upon he came forward and intervened and helped. Not so Pope Benedict.

We are very concern that, the political reinvention of those former COMECON nations, their politicians and relevant institutions. Suddenly they have become more democrat than the very democratic system we sued to save them, come to their rescue and lend to averting a global nuclear war.

Those who think like Tony Blair with the use and abuse of "rave/rage - such mechanism” to influence and control issues, agendas and such group - NGO with them. Should we see such deterioration or direction of action, politic and diplomatic practice. We ought to see and expect more deterioration of situation, working mechanism of EU and inter Eu community, nation working relation worsening.

Just like in Seychelles, the very Communist system we helped change, contribute to transit from communist or extreme socialist to a socialist of EU standard. They have turned round and done their best to destroy our organs, take over our community workings, they want to dictate, they want to lecture us what is democracy, justice and human values now. {They and those involved in the Project to rewrite Seychelles history, that British author, those who have employed and supported him and former President James Mancham outrage – those who have the power and means to undertake such action and produce such work in the name of democracy, justice}

We believe we are stating a challenge. With all due respect of those nations and countries who have had and worked very hard to build democracy and its working institutions. They need also for important debate. One need experience to practice half decent democracy a short 20 years in not enough or the creation of institutions as existed in older democratic countries to imitate or invest vast amount of money, resource, media coverage do not lend them to overnight becoming great or better working democracy - let alone the use of force and military.

Sunday 28 June 2009

European leaders celebrate Iron Curtain fall in Hungary

European leaders celebrate Iron Curtain fall in Hungary


European leaders have assembled in the Hungarian capital Budapest to mark the 20th anniversary of the symbolic fall of the Iron Curtain that divided the continent during the four tense decades of the Cold War.

In spite of all the terrible political out fall because of the double standard by the world political leadership- the collapse of first the USA then world finance system, the economy – the political bankrupt system functioning across the EU and the so call official media involvement.

Those who have worked, contributed that such historic event took place. Yet, the leading politicians, History will not given them a proper place in history.

At Friends of Europe we have written an article about the killing of Micheal Jackson – the practice, whilst we are about it the killing of King Baudoin of Belgium. Certainly this is not a coincidence.

Just like we endevoured to write and explain how certain individuals who purport they belong to the Masonic fraternity function, do things and work. In terms of Interdisciplinary Management/multidisciplinary practice in important world politic, economic, military or media how things work.

Those/the very political leaders who think they are running the show /managing events, those media barons along - refusal to grasp they are being managed – the existence of discipline and interdisciplinary management practice which works alongside.

Yet after a given event or development have laps/passed those politicians and their media collaborators deny any involvement of others expect them. How terrible dishonest they are and they stand or hide behind State, national institutions diplomacy or Judiciary to hide and screen their scam practice.

Because we were involved, we were responsible – we will use language which the simple can and will understand. In Seychelles, Reunion, Madagascar, Comor, Seychelles every person small and great know and have come to know how the musicians work, where they get their inspiration and motivation for a song, video etc. It is because of political events, local events, accidents, military bust up, personal issues - and very many other issues. They do not use scientific methods to climb up to the starts or heaven to get their information and inspiration.

By the same process our Sechelles – Seychelles EU community way back in 1977 across Europe, France, Germany, Italy, Britain and the USA some of the Stars, important artist we have influenced, in small or important ways or manner. Just like we have influenced Sport personalities and the very politicians themselves.

In this case Micheal Jackson. It requires and demand discretion, due training and respect for those one is involved with – you just do not go and boast or brag about such issues - The existence of certain science to prove and disprove a given song or concert or movie was inspired or motivated or based upon a particular events or development.

In the case of Micheal Jackson the so call experts, the music media in the USA and the world media, the intelligence services and others. The very many songs he wrote and sang in relation to the political events, rather inspired by the political events and development of COMECON, EU, the world and daily happening. Those from the world media lies and indeed the artist themselves they cover up, they refuse to tell the true inspiration, they invent, they glorify – they are and can be very deceptive. The world call/name these individuals Stars and the politicians use them to set the standard for society.

Be they from the big multinational, the police, the politicians, the religious when you use or have used and apply certain Interdisciplinary/multidisciplinary management system or methods and then turn round and deny or lie or scam about sooner or later you will made to pay for this – the involvement of para science and other natural sciences.

We can and is writing this article because we have been down this road many many times and all those so call great politicians who were involved and how they used and abuse the system – where are they and what became of them and those who write history, their dishonesty. For all the pomp and glamor or pretense of respectability they use surrounding such events.

Not because Micheal Jackson has died or his fame – how many at the Hungarian ceremony to mark 20 years of the opening of the boarder between Austria and Hungary gave thought to such issues and events – they have been influenced by what the media have written.

Such stars have existed during the Greeks, Roman, Egyptian, Babylonian, Chinese, Indian, African and American Indian civilizations. Why they exist and their purpose in society and life.

We thank those who have urgued us to add this event to the SIROP/CDU/Alliance Blog

We have added a link to the Hungarian 20th Anniversary events
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We have also added a link to article about the new book published by the Illois/Chagossain

Thursday 30 April 2009

Conference: From the fall of the Iron Curtain in 1989 to the Enlargement of the EU in 2004


From the fall of the Iron Curtain in 1989 to the Enlargement of the EU in 2004 - “the Role of Civil Society” and the Idea of Europe in Democratic Transformation in Central and Eastern Europe“. The conference will be held in Prague on 1 May 2009. The conference is convened by the European Commission's Directorates General for Education and Culture and for Enlargement, together with the Czech Presidency of the Council of the European Union.

Recently we added three very important links to our Sechelles – Seychelles EU Community portal project. Youth of Europe – Young Parliamentarians of EU, Integration EU, the new Youth Portal of EU.

The reason being that very many form our Sechelles – Seychelles EU Communities, in the respective EU member state they reside – live, including very many who have married citizens of a given EU member stat, their children, their schools, education process, the very many officials and vast many EU relevant institutions and indeed many at the EU Commission, the Parliament and Council of Europe have taken in what we have been addressing the citizens of EU, their governments, politicians, their media, judiciaries and policing institutions beside the vast armies of NGO's. The way they have explained Europe is supposed and anticipated to work. Guideline, advice, recommendation, best practice.

We read and follow the many news via the EU Commission portal on what they do, support, rights, budget to assist many areas of activities related with a given community or communities, in this case the Seychelles Communities in EU from education, training, health, sport, culture, political debate, media awareness and coverage, the youth, woman, elderly, the former Refugees and exiles and migration integration. The Seychelles communities beside the related in put – associated in put at country national level – by this we mean example France, the church, the local charities, the relevant government Social departments, the local NGO's, the local media and the many other communities be they ethnic or national the interactivity and relations they build and have build – depending on the resources and needs of a give community in a village, town or residential area, schools, colleges and place of work. Directly very little is done have been done for them for the past 20 years.
Yet, the Commission spend and invest massively in media campaign, social, cultural, educative projects, beside issues which they further/promote at schools, place of work and the Town Halls or indeed National Parliaments – the Sechelles – Seychelles EU Community despise protest is being and have been excluded from very many of these costly and powerful EU ambitious programs and ideas – events.

What take place and have taken place the systematic, institutionalized abuse, using their many connection, heritage to link and gear up large projects, multi £billions financial issues, inter government debate, trade issues and they came out short change, penniless, traumatized, feeling very, very hurt and done by.

The men and people on the streets, plain citizens of EU know what is happening, they know and are aware of what happened 20 years ago and all along as we have mentioned here and indeed much more depending on the daily happening and events – relates issues. They also know why and how the process work – why this is being done to our communities, all those involved in managing and making the communities in EU work. Because of our role, contributions in the above mentioned, the WWW project and the “modern – present day communication methodology – practices” which have been meanwhile globally institutionalized.

We are not interested to debate here the role of the relevant Consulate, embassy or such Seychelles Government representative. They have primary role to represent the interest of Seychelles in a given country, region – government national institutions or indeed the many EU institutions. What really happen. The individuals, the families, the youth, the elderly, the sick and needy, the unemployed, the children of a given community of Sechelles – Seychelles in EU face abuse by the very Consulate, embassy appointed to represent them. They are very condescending, they are very arrogant, in most instance they do not want to help or have anything to do with the above mentioned – happy at the same time to rip the benefits of the consulate diplomatic tile. This is not just the Sechelles – Seychelles Community – this is a prevailing practice right across EU and beyond involving Consulate and embassy supposedly appointed to represent the interest of the people, nation and their government.

We take this opportunity to address those who have been short selling, raiding, pilfering our heritage and the interest of the Seychelles EU Community, be they individuals, institutions – this practice have cost every body very dear and if/should nobody want to learn – by the time they take time to regret, it will be very or too late.

We have noted yet again a major event funded and sponsored by the EU on 20 years events and history from 1989 to 2004, as we have very many other important events, conference related to the above – the Sechelles – Seychelles EU Communities never once invited, interviewed, or approached. The Consulate or Ambassador yes. The very important historic issues and events we have been en devouring to address and explain to the world for the past 20 years. What were the real parties, actions, agendas, programs, mechanism which influenced – first Pope John Paul ll as Polish Pope to be elected. The state of the world, EU, the political thinking then and the state of things in the COMECON member countries, USSR, the Western Block, the Communist – socialist Block, the Warsaw Pact, NATO, then OAU, the None Aligned Movement, the Commonwealth, the Francophone and the many relevant UN institutions. The situation in the Middle East, Latin America, China and the Indian Ocean Region.

We have been monitoring many documentaries and related events, major international discussions, media coverage. From the USA – their many National Institutions who have spend and have done almost anything to take credit for what took place from the initial election of Pope John Paul ll to German Reunification and the dismantling of USSR. At the same the ruthless approach to use undemocratic methods, practice, to silence and keep quiet anybody who oppose and have other views. Because of the importance of their media – the rest of the world inability to confront and state otherwise.

We have equally followed the very many discussion, issues and documentaries of the Vatican – those how have tried to put/spin very many angles on what really took place. The election of Pope John Paul ll and events which followed. “We want to pose the world a very serious question, those who will be at this Conference – all those responsible for this Topic at the Commission, the council of Europe and the Vatican. Those who knew at the time the preferred choice of candidate for election as Pope, those form the church of England and their relevant national fraternal – archaic institutions. There are many untold and important issues which the world may and will never know except to very few.” Yet the world media, the underlining issues of democracy, justice and relevant bench mark. Had not Pope John Paul ll been elected – what would have been the outcome in COMECON and the rest of the world. It is the duty and obligatin of every humanalive in EU to question and find out what happened.
Over the past 10 years we have en devoured to address and explain – the vital role the Sechelles – Seychelles EU community in conjunction, assisted by our archaic/fraternal - Christian heritage and their mechanism, dynamics, disciplines, synergies - have played in these historic debacle and process. What do they do the refuse to follow up our address, instead they will dial ague with the Seychelles government and their consulate or embassy in EU – those people we not involved, except for looking and watching opportunities to make business, raise their images and make money. In Seychelles the very few involved and we have listed them all over the years.

We have taken great length and time to explain the reasons and part of what happened – what we deem relevant for the greater public. Also history and events have proves you/one cannot disclose every information from the many USA National Institutions, the EU, the Russian, the African Union, the EU, etc.. having parted with such or a given important information how they after turn round either kill the person – very many ways, destroy the person or shut the person up and they use the information for their own ends.

The forthcoming Conference will supposedly highlight and address the participation and function of the Civil societies and NGO in events which led to 1989 – 2004.

We ask all those who are concerned and really interested our very many article and thread on the role of the NGO's or what ewe have termed Networks then and over the past 20 years, the Networks which existed before 1989 – the very many NGO of those COMECON countries in exile in Europe particularly and Britain.

Among other issues we have presented and addressed – our relation to Poland and other COMECON countries and in particular Czechoslovakia, the current EU President – again those who know and have known how certain archaic/fraternal – Christian heritage and their mechanism, discipline and such work or function. The important political family connection which made this linkage and action possible- the whole world completely ignorant, the mass in Czechoslovakia and their current Political leadership, their media completely ignorant. How like the Yugoslavia development had our Seychelles EU Community reacted and responded different their would not have been two separate countries or for that matter the mega division of the Yugoslavia – those who know and are aware of the issues and why the manipulated events such and todays outcome. These are statement we can stand before the UN, the many EU high institutions and repeat them and prove to them how it work and can work – also manipulated, abused by those with special agendas.

Using the logic and argument of our initial involvement from the Vatican – church position, the decision to support the Polish strike and events, issues which followed, the events which followed by the day, the hour across the COMECON – those who knew what was happening, what were involved. We are not denying and will deny some of the very important individual witness, experiences, neighbor, mass meetings, like then they did not know what was making it happening, they thought they were in control, even after the fall of the Berlin wall they thought they were in control and those who have made the very many documentaries to explain and underlined a particular events or the way an event took place. At the end of the day they we just players, others elsewhere were puling the strings and manipulating and controlling events, development, media development and their coverage. This is what have led to the double applicable government, political,and diplomatic standard. Those who have argued the Grey matters is not the concern of the public or writers of history.

We have addressed events in the USSR again those who knew and have known – the cover up. Meanwhile the former Russian President Vladimir Putin to find out and be better informed. Yet those form the former USSR the many leading politicians and political parties are not interested to find out what really happened the election of Mikael Gorbachev, the putsch between him and Boris Yeltsin and direction of the new Russia. Yet those in Washington and London or Paris and how they have preferred to tell other wise and the media along. Had our Seychelles EU community responded and reacted differently – how events in USSR and todays Russia would have been different and the fate of the world.

We have addressed based upon these arguments who we feel involved and responsible for bringing Christianity back to the COMECON countries, bringing back what we have termed archaic/fraternal – Christian institutions, their royalty and nobility, their Heraldic heritages and very many other important institutions which today they take for granted, freedom of the press, the WWW, the armies of NGO and civil societies to be found in their countries today. Most important the contributions we have played that they become part of the EU member nation and the ongoing events from 1998 – to 2004. We have persistently argued and addressed these topics and their relevancy.

We have argued how had, our Sechelles Seychelles EU community been allowed to integrate as had been anticipated their working system on continental EU, Belgium, France, Spain the pendulum of so call market economy not swung the far direction it did and the mega world economic and financial mess up and the situation we are in. We call once again for those who argue the role and values of civil societies in the affairs of EU and history – the experts. You cannot have a situation when it suit you or the said parties use the argument of the importance of the civil Societies – NGO 's that they perform and can perform very important and significant role in daily functioning of society, government – the vast army of EU institutions – yet then because it does not suit the plan or the power constellations refute or ignore their function and abilities.

We have argued about those who have decided to muzzle the civil societies and the NGO's create financial, environment and legislations they they become the under dog, they cannot perform and cannot act as they are meant to function. The greater political agenda – the agenda of One world government and the involvement of the last Two former USA President, that of President Bill Clinton and President G Bush and the state of the world. Inventing and creating enemies – the very civil societies and NGO 's as enemy of the state and the people.

Most important given the none existence means addressed some of the issues at the SIROP blog a link we will attached to this article.

Having state what we have, we also wish to mention the discussion and approach we have build and put together our community portal project – how it have influence development of the Euro. The ECB, the politic and national economy of many EU member states, the politic of EU and other institutions functioning. Had we not had this portal project – in the events of the world situation the greater and worser situation we would have been in. We have equally argued that we are prepared to prove this by shutting down the portal for 6 months and allow those who can the possibilities to monitor events and outcomes.

We want to take this opportunity to lodge our protest at the EU institutions, the many important institutions involved in marking this 20 years of history and events and we, nobody form our Sechelles Seychelles EU community involved, requested to come or participate in any events. Using a bit of logic this is the exact and kind of recipe for trouble and problematic to develop – those who understand public office, function and management and workings. How governments are run.
We have decided to add two picture of the House, property where most of these events and issues played out in London – Britain, 87a Victoria Road – the old coach House, ex British Refugee council Housing Properties. We have also added a picture of the Center in Hounslow where our Seychelles exile community was based and worked with support and assistance from Hounslow voluntary Action and the elderly Group. against the better judgment of many leading Voluntary agencies, workers, community activist – our community created the SIROP etc unofficial exile return program and how we worked and when about promoting it. Beside the involvement of other Seychelles EU Exile and refugees groups and political parties.

Work on the Commuity coat of arms was started in Vienna 1978 there about, because we had been convinced of the exile community return to Seychelles – those involved how we would rebuild the Sechelles – Seychelles EU community network.The future Seychelles, The need to have a coat of Arms and flag to reflect this. They are both included below.

On behalf of our communities in EU, their ancestral archaic/fraternal – Christian heritage, their respective leadership and executives, families, their organs wish those gathered in Phrag Conference to mark 20th year history and events, success and our best wishes to the people of their Nation and EU. The outcome of this year election across the EU, how it could have been very much other wise.

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Friday 3 April 2009

NATO 60th Anniversary celebration in Strassbourg

NATO 60th Anniversary celebration in Strassbourg


When we compare Bod Geldoff – manner to present and address the issues he did at the G20 Summit in comparison to the first Live Aid – Ethiopia famine, the vitality, the dynamic, the drive the utter zeal and conviction he and all of us confronted the issues. The over polite and over groomed manner he addressed the issues once again at the G20 Summit – yet should the true facts be detailed and presented properly those world leaders who have failed in a very big way their office and responsibilities over the past 10 years the reason the world has reached and arrived where we are. Individuals like himself and many others who have been muzzled and psychologically refrained from acting and speaking out and the fast degrading situation – those political elites who think and their media they alone can run and rule the world.

Yet the vast many demonstrators and those who did not demonstrate or took part their views – the political system has failed and is failing.


We have started this thread with those issues to point out how terrible those elected by the respective citizens of our world and society are managing and reacting – why so. For those who are not naive NATO is the killing Machine – instrument of the West and EU full stop. This is not about civilized killing machine- if it adopted this posture and attitude it would not be in a position as a Military Organization to function over is opposition – enemy the Russian, the Chinese, the Arab and others.

Just like those attending the G20 world Summit in London have failed and are failing to take into proper account what has led them to come together – their polite public show, leaving out the much more serious and grave issues – who will attend or tackle them. When other do then they come back and behave like uneducated pigs.

On this 60th Anniversary of NATO we want to ask a very crucial question to those responsible and leading, the Generals and the politicians - because we can.

1 – Had the COMECON change not taken place where would NATO be today and even in the schools and class rooms the school children will answer, those who in 10 -15 years later take up their boots, arms etc and fight for NATO. The answers should it be explained to all,those school children in EU. The world and EU a different place – there would and should have been a major military conflict – Nuclear or otherwise - , those form the Civic societies, NGO, Church , voluntary armies – who see the purpose and function of human and mankind different – the mega efforts they took and used to avoid and change the course of History – not NATO and their propaganda Machine.

Fortunately in EU we have certain very important institutions – what we have come to term our ancestral archaic/fraternal – Christian heritage – they those responsible how they manage information and those ancient an historic events of our ancestors – when NATO was not around. Their abilities and resource available to monitor and confront in instance when those who loose their Heads or over zeal advocate and lend to the spreading of distortion, lies and unwarranted propagandas to suit their ends.

At this Morning and 60th NATO Anniversary – individuals like Lech WwValensa of Solidarnos , those who former d the nucleus of the protest at Danzig ought to have been present and interviewed. Not the current Polish politicians and their media crooks.

Those who served in the Office of Pope John Paul ll closely involved in monitoring the crucial and unofficial issues of the Danzig protest – it could have been that those who really know and were involved instead of supporting Lech Walensa and the strikers whisper to the Military and the Soviet Generals - the outcome would have been very different. The Polish Military and the Soviet would have used force – we know this for certain- those at the time who knew.

They ought to interview those involved in the protest in Czechoslovakia at the time Lech Walensa started the Danzig protest – rather the protest started and equally the Romanian parties.

From the former East Germany there are very many around including Chancellor Merkle – shame on her and the Deputy Leader of Mr Oscar Lafontaine Party, their duplicity , arrogance and distorted presentation of what took place and how changes really come to Germany and the German reunification. ( We have been brought to have respect for our archaic/fraternal and Christian heritage and institutions – what is taken place in Germany currently in economic term and began under chancellor Schroeder - their dishonest manner and way they have been manipulating and presenting to the world the changing which came to Germany and why. Today NATO 60 th Anniversary and those in Germany who cannot differentiate between their enemies and friends – a bit of the same attitude and malaise like the USA, the British. Those who have saved their arse – their nation, dignity and values they threat like Terrorist , let loose their dogs and use every methods to obliterate and they thing history and those archaic/fraternal – Christan heritage and mechanism will forgive and let them get away with it. )

Then we turn to today Russia – former USSR, those around then President Gorbachev, what really took place. The visit to London of President Gorbachev and the issues of Lady Tacther – which really got him into big trouble with the Generals and the former Soviet system those who had suspected and knew something was very wrong – the efforts by then Lady Tacthers. Those who misjudged or were misinformed and believed that Lady Tacther was puling the string or certain in London and they were very wrong with all their leading experts, massive resource and knowledge. They ought to find out what really took place that led to President Gorbachev almost being killed and President Yeltsin taking over and his people - they ought to be interviewed – we are not dealing with a Terrorist nation we are dealing with the former USSR - the party that sent shiver in the spine of mothers, children , babies and grandparents/elderly in the West. What really happened - their views and acessment of NATO then and the development of NATO these past 18years – the many bogus Wars started for political, big money and dubious reasons and the Western media involvement.

There is the need to get those around President Francois Mitterrand this morning who really knew what was happening then – our French archaic/fraternal and Christian heritage and their mechanism being applied and the media then – those those scums running around Paris today. For those Military General who have given some of the best military education to those young French soldiers – when you have a situation or system build heavily upon distortions and disinformation something will give in - collapse and this is What NATO is all about.

The important question we want to ask the French Senate this Morning , the French People and the very many French Institutions and the President of France - had we not put that link of NATYO on our Sechelles – Seychelles EU community portal the synergy/.dynamic and the many important issues that have come about because of this the past 6months almost - would France have joined NATO. Those from Lady Tacther's office, Prime minister John Major, Prime Minister Blair, the many USA Presidents, the Russians, - those who knew and were aware of our debacles and the issues we were involved the confrontation between the French Military and those from NATO interest - what has happened – did these never take place. The intelligence and system in place today which lead and make those take certain decision and the position – the terrible media role.

Equally those from Vienna at the time of the Lech Walensa debacle, the first sign of the Danzig protest – the undercurrent then. Those around chancellor Kreisky what they knew and what they have never told the world - the world and western media feeding the crap and lies to the world and so call political decision machine. We have said ofter the role of Austria in the 1st world war and the 2nd world war and the debacle yes or no to do something to change the situation in the COMECON AND IT what MANNER OFR FORM SO THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO HACVE A CONFRONTATION WITH THE Soviets – USSR AND THE WARSAW BLOCK THEN. They ought to be at the 60th Ceremony – along with those there not just the current dishonest bunch – who is leading the world to fiasco.

Then there those in Italy – then Office of Andreotti - their archaic/.fraternal =- Christan mechanism and that of Vatican being applied and used then and was used all along until 1997 they ought to be there this morning and be given the opportunity to say what happened and warned those Generals and their politicians.

Last we turned to those in the USA who were there at the time of President Ronald Reagen and President George Bush Senior later. The blood lies of US media, their intelligence Service and many others – what really led and what mechanism was used that President Ronald Reagen was elected and the reason he was elected as President of the USA – like President Clinton and current President Obama – the media lies, the establishment lies, the military lies and those from the greater public who have know otherwise and let themselves and their children be drag along in the mess.

President Ronald Reagen in private and in person knew the real role of Walensa, those in Vatican, those in France, Vienna, those in Germany, those in USSR, Those in Italy and those in London. The scenario with the media, the generals and those historians have repainted – the secrets which such individual have taken to therm graves – the current NATO and its 60th anniversary.

We ask those from the USA archaic/fraternal and Christian heritage who knew or learned of what took place and was taking to come forward. The fact that for the past 30 years there is and have existed two or three system in place in the world involved in managing, coping and taking care of those issues – NATO 6o th anniversary today – those individuals and people will not be around except those politicians and their friends.

What about those in china at the time for all the Chinese secrecy and so call Chinese Curtain like the soviet – their ability to gather and collect vital and whatever information they deem is relevant for their country at the time – their knowledge and what the Chinese public were told and what their media were told. The role and position of China in the then military COMECON – Warsaw debacle and the protest in Danzig by Walensa and the start of Solidarnos.

very important the role of Dr Butros Butros Ghali – those who really knew and know what led to his election as Secretary of the UN then Lady Tacther knowledge and the position of the UN at the time of the COMECON existence, Warsaw Pact how they reacted and responded – the evaluation of Dr Burtos Ghali Office. How UN persive those involve in the mega changes of the COMECON and then NATO role – all those who have done the dirty work for NATO Generals and their machine – today and over the past 15 years their arrogance and political attitude – those in current Russia whop had suspected, been informed and aware of how these issues affect and impact NATO and Western allies decision Making process.

The World and EU have got a very Serious – those we will not wast words small politicians who are playing gods with people destiny because they have been elected – once elected they develop and create laws and system to dominate and Lord over the very citizens who have put them in Power.

Most important we have the role of those Policing and involved in Policing such events like the Current Strasbourg 60th NATO Anniversary – the manner and methods – they have no rights to be there – they do not know what they are protecting and defending – whatever orders and guideline they have been given – how can the the Police of a Nation protect and defend something they do not know about or what really they are protecting – resulting in scenario like TV and video Games and the such.

Those youth and citizens who are not stupid and realize aspect of many aspect of these development and their respond and reaction.

Finally we want to address those attending that NATO 60th anniversary – they rely heavily for computer science and resource in almost every sphere of their work and commitments – those in Israel who have sued the computer science to predict and forecast a Major military confrontation at hand and inevitable – this could and should have taken place those again from the NGO, the Church and other Civil bodies who are doing the dirty work and job of NATO those General and their [politicians nasties and they turn round with the help of the media crooks and take the credit, the lime light etc. - somebody somewhere ought to try this refuse to vie or look any such TV program right across the world – this will send the right message to NATO and their Generals and those politicians involved and the police without having to go on the streets.

Then there is the issues of the many bogus and current issues NATO is involved and deploying their forces and resources – the dishonesty, the lies and manipulative aspect of the media or certain medias – chuting out what are the other factors and dynamic causing the given conflicts and their development – those who have know and involved in such issues over the past 25 years in very important manner. Including the election of NATO Heads and their staff for the the media circus and lies or what news information come out of NATO.

What we will not write about the role and impact our Seychelles EU community coat of Arms played/have played and impacted NATO those who monitor, study and manage such arcahic/fraternal - Christain heritage, their issues. ( The reason we became very angry with President FA Rene - those arround him who understand Military issues - the Russian, Chinese and others over this project - again the issues of that mega earth quake and the Tsunami of 2004/5the lies and coverup)

Polite note:
We have not edited this thread properly - excuse.