European leaders celebrate Iron Curtain fall in Hungary
European leaders have assembled in the Hungarian capital Budapest to mark the 20th anniversary of the symbolic fall of the Iron Curtain that divided the continent during the four tense decades of the Cold War.
In spite of all the terrible political out fall because of the double standard by the world political leadership- the collapse of first the USA then world finance system, the economy – the political bankrupt system functioning across the EU and the so call official media involvement.
Those who have worked, contributed that such historic event took place. Yet, the leading politicians, History will not given them a proper place in history.
At Friends of Europe we have written an article about the killing of Micheal Jackson – the practice, whilst we are about it the killing of King Baudoin of Belgium. Certainly this is not a coincidence.
Just like we endevoured to write and explain how certain individuals who purport they belong to the Masonic fraternity function, do things and work. In terms of Interdisciplinary Management/multidisciplinary practice in important world politic, economic, military or media how things work.
Those/the very political leaders who think they are running the show /managing events, those media barons along - refusal to grasp they are being managed – the existence of discipline and interdisciplinary management practice which works alongside.
Yet after a given event or development have laps/passed those politicians and their media collaborators deny any involvement of others expect them. How terrible dishonest they are and they stand or hide behind State, national institutions diplomacy or Judiciary to hide and screen their scam practice.
Because we were involved, we were responsible – we will use language which the simple can and will understand. In Seychelles, Reunion, Madagascar, Comor, Seychelles every person small and great know and have come to know how the musicians work, where they get their inspiration and motivation for a song, video etc. It is because of political events, local events, accidents, military bust up, personal issues - and very many other issues. They do not use scientific methods to climb up to the starts or heaven to get their information and inspiration.
By the same process our Sechelles – Seychelles EU community way back in 1977 across Europe, France, Germany, Italy, Britain and the USA some of the Stars, important artist we have influenced, in small or important ways or manner. Just like we have influenced Sport personalities and the very politicians themselves.
In this case Micheal Jackson. It requires and demand discretion, due training and respect for those one is involved with – you just do not go and boast or brag about such issues - The existence of certain science to prove and disprove a given song or concert or movie was inspired or motivated or based upon a particular events or development.
In the case of Micheal Jackson the so call experts, the music media in the USA and the world media, the intelligence services and others. The very many songs he wrote and sang in relation to the political events, rather inspired by the political events and development of COMECON, EU, the world and daily happening. Those from the world media lies and indeed the artist themselves they cover up, they refuse to tell the true inspiration, they invent, they glorify – they are and can be very deceptive. The world call/name these individuals Stars and the politicians use them to set the standard for society.
Be they from the big multinational, the police, the politicians, the religious when you use or have used and apply certain Interdisciplinary/multidisciplinary management system or methods and then turn round and deny or lie or scam about sooner or later you will made to pay for this – the involvement of para science and other natural sciences.
We can and is writing this article because we have been down this road many many times and all those so call great politicians who were involved and how they used and abuse the system – where are they and what became of them and those who write history, their dishonesty. For all the pomp and glamor or pretense of respectability they use surrounding such events.
Not because Micheal Jackson has died or his fame – how many at the Hungarian ceremony to mark 20 years of the opening of the boarder between Austria and Hungary gave thought to such issues and events – they have been influenced by what the media have written.
Such stars have existed during the Greeks, Roman, Egyptian, Babylonian, Chinese, Indian, African and American Indian civilizations. Why they exist and their purpose in society and life.
We thank those who have urgued us to add this event to the SIROP/CDU/Alliance Blog
We have added a link to the Hungarian 20th Anniversary events:
We have also added a link to article about the new book published by the Illois/Chagossain
Sunday, 28 June 2009
Thursday, 30 April 2009
Conference: From the fall of the Iron Curtain in 1989 to the Enlargement of the EU in 2004
From the fall of the Iron Curtain in 1989 to the Enlargement of the EU in 2004 - “the Role of Civil Society” and the Idea of Europe in Democratic Transformation in Central and Eastern Europe“. The conference will be held in Prague on 1 May 2009. The conference is convened by the European Commission's Directorates General for Education and Culture and for Enlargement, together with the Czech Presidency of the Council of the European Union.
Recently we added three very important links to our Sechelles – Seychelles EU Community portal project. Youth of Europe – Young Parliamentarians of EU, Integration EU, the new Youth Portal of EU.
The reason being that very many form our Sechelles – Seychelles EU Communities, in the respective EU member state they reside – live, including very many who have married citizens of a given EU member stat, their children, their schools, education process, the very many officials and vast many EU relevant institutions and indeed many at the EU Commission, the Parliament and Council of Europe have taken in what we have been addressing the citizens of EU, their governments, politicians, their media, judiciaries and policing institutions beside the vast armies of NGO's. The way they have explained Europe is supposed and anticipated to work. Guideline, advice, recommendation, best practice.
We read and follow the many news via the EU Commission portal on what they do, support, rights, budget to assist many areas of activities related with a given community or communities, in this case the Seychelles Communities in EU from education, training, health, sport, culture, political debate, media awareness and coverage, the youth, woman, elderly, the former Refugees and exiles and migration integration. The Seychelles communities beside the related in put – associated in put at country national level – by this we mean example France, the church, the local charities, the relevant government Social departments, the local NGO's, the local media and the many other communities be they ethnic or national the interactivity and relations they build and have build – depending on the resources and needs of a give community in a village, town or residential area, schools, colleges and place of work. Directly very little is done have been done for them for the past 20 years.
Yet, the Commission spend and invest massively in media campaign, social, cultural, educative projects, beside issues which they further/promote at schools, place of work and the Town Halls or indeed National Parliaments – the Sechelles – Seychelles EU Community despise protest is being and have been excluded from very many of these costly and powerful EU ambitious programs and ideas – events.
What take place and have taken place the systematic, institutionalized abuse, using their many connection, heritage to link and gear up large projects, multi £billions financial issues, inter government debate, trade issues and they came out short change, penniless, traumatized, feeling very, very hurt and done by.
The men and people on the streets, plain citizens of EU know what is happening, they know and are aware of what happened 20 years ago and all along as we have mentioned here and indeed much more depending on the daily happening and events – relates issues. They also know why and how the process work – why this is being done to our communities, all those involved in managing and making the communities in EU work. Because of our role, contributions in the above mentioned, the WWW project and the “modern – present day communication methodology – practices” which have been meanwhile globally institutionalized.
We are not interested to debate here the role of the relevant Consulate, embassy or such Seychelles Government representative. They have primary role to represent the interest of Seychelles in a given country, region – government national institutions or indeed the many EU institutions. What really happen. The individuals, the families, the youth, the elderly, the sick and needy, the unemployed, the children of a given community of Sechelles – Seychelles in EU face abuse by the very Consulate, embassy appointed to represent them. They are very condescending, they are very arrogant, in most instance they do not want to help or have anything to do with the above mentioned – happy at the same time to rip the benefits of the consulate diplomatic tile. This is not just the Sechelles – Seychelles Community – this is a prevailing practice right across EU and beyond involving Consulate and embassy supposedly appointed to represent the interest of the people, nation and their government.
We take this opportunity to address those who have been short selling, raiding, pilfering our heritage and the interest of the Seychelles EU Community, be they individuals, institutions – this practice have cost every body very dear and if/should nobody want to learn – by the time they take time to regret, it will be very or too late.
We have noted yet again a major event funded and sponsored by the EU on 20 years events and history from 1989 to 2004, as we have very many other important events, conference related to the above – the Sechelles – Seychelles EU Communities never once invited, interviewed, or approached. The Consulate or Ambassador yes. The very important historic issues and events we have been en devouring to address and explain to the world for the past 20 years. What were the real parties, actions, agendas, programs, mechanism which influenced – first Pope John Paul ll as Polish Pope to be elected. The state of the world, EU, the political thinking then and the state of things in the COMECON member countries, USSR, the Western Block, the Communist – socialist Block, the Warsaw Pact, NATO, then OAU, the None Aligned Movement, the Commonwealth, the Francophone and the many relevant UN institutions. The situation in the Middle East, Latin America, China and the Indian Ocean Region.
We have been monitoring many documentaries and related events, major international discussions, media coverage. From the USA – their many National Institutions who have spend and have done almost anything to take credit for what took place from the initial election of Pope John Paul ll to German Reunification and the dismantling of USSR. At the same the ruthless approach to use undemocratic methods, practice, to silence and keep quiet anybody who oppose and have other views. Because of the importance of their media – the rest of the world inability to confront and state otherwise.
We have equally followed the very many discussion, issues and documentaries of the Vatican – those how have tried to put/spin very many angles on what really took place. The election of Pope John Paul ll and events which followed. “We want to pose the world a very serious question, those who will be at this Conference – all those responsible for this Topic at the Commission, the council of Europe and the Vatican. Those who knew at the time the preferred choice of candidate for election as Pope, those form the church of England and their relevant national fraternal – archaic institutions. There are many untold and important issues which the world may and will never know except to very few.” Yet the world media, the underlining issues of democracy, justice and relevant bench mark. Had not Pope John Paul ll been elected – what would have been the outcome in COMECON and the rest of the world. It is the duty and obligatin of every humanalive in EU to question and find out what happened.
Over the past 10 years we have en devoured to address and explain – the vital role the Sechelles – Seychelles EU community in conjunction, assisted by our archaic/fraternal - Christian heritage and their mechanism, dynamics, disciplines, synergies - have played in these historic debacle and process. What do they do the refuse to follow up our address, instead they will dial ague with the Seychelles government and their consulate or embassy in EU – those people we not involved, except for looking and watching opportunities to make business, raise their images and make money. In Seychelles the very few involved and we have listed them all over the years.
We have taken great length and time to explain the reasons and part of what happened – what we deem relevant for the greater public. Also history and events have proves you/one cannot disclose every information from the many USA National Institutions, the EU, the Russian, the African Union, the EU, etc.. having parted with such or a given important information how they after turn round either kill the person – very many ways, destroy the person or shut the person up and they use the information for their own ends.
The forthcoming Conference will supposedly highlight and address the participation and function of the Civil societies and NGO in events which led to 1989 – 2004.
We ask all those who are concerned and really interested our very many article and thread on the role of the NGO's or what ewe have termed Networks then and over the past 20 years, the Networks which existed before 1989 – the very many NGO of those COMECON countries in exile in Europe particularly and Britain.
Among other issues we have presented and addressed – our relation to Poland and other COMECON countries and in particular Czechoslovakia, the current EU President – again those who know and have known how certain archaic/fraternal – Christian heritage and their mechanism, discipline and such work or function. The important political family connection which made this linkage and action possible- the whole world completely ignorant, the mass in Czechoslovakia and their current Political leadership, their media completely ignorant. How like the Yugoslavia development had our Seychelles EU Community reacted and responded different their would not have been two separate countries or for that matter the mega division of the Yugoslavia – those who know and are aware of the issues and why the manipulated events such and todays outcome. These are statement we can stand before the UN, the many EU high institutions and repeat them and prove to them how it work and can work – also manipulated, abused by those with special agendas.
Using the logic and argument of our initial involvement from the Vatican – church position, the decision to support the Polish strike and events, issues which followed, the events which followed by the day, the hour across the COMECON – those who knew what was happening, what were involved. We are not denying and will deny some of the very important individual witness, experiences, neighbor, mass meetings, like then they did not know what was making it happening, they thought they were in control, even after the fall of the Berlin wall they thought they were in control and those who have made the very many documentaries to explain and underlined a particular events or the way an event took place. At the end of the day they we just players, others elsewhere were puling the strings and manipulating and controlling events, development, media development and their coverage. This is what have led to the double applicable government, political,and diplomatic standard. Those who have argued the Grey matters is not the concern of the public or writers of history.
We have addressed events in the USSR again those who knew and have known – the cover up. Meanwhile the former Russian President Vladimir Putin to find out and be better informed. Yet those form the former USSR the many leading politicians and political parties are not interested to find out what really happened the election of Mikael Gorbachev, the putsch between him and Boris Yeltsin and direction of the new Russia. Yet those in Washington and London or Paris and how they have preferred to tell other wise and the media along. Had our Seychelles EU community responded and reacted differently – how events in USSR and todays Russia would have been different and the fate of the world.
We have addressed based upon these arguments who we feel involved and responsible for bringing Christianity back to the COMECON countries, bringing back what we have termed archaic/fraternal – Christian institutions, their royalty and nobility, their Heraldic heritages and very many other important institutions which today they take for granted, freedom of the press, the WWW, the armies of NGO and civil societies to be found in their countries today. Most important the contributions we have played that they become part of the EU member nation and the ongoing events from 1998 – to 2004. We have persistently argued and addressed these topics and their relevancy.
We have argued how had, our Sechelles Seychelles EU community been allowed to integrate as had been anticipated their working system on continental EU, Belgium, France, Spain the pendulum of so call market economy not swung the far direction it did and the mega world economic and financial mess up and the situation we are in. We call once again for those who argue the role and values of civil societies in the affairs of EU and history – the experts. You cannot have a situation when it suit you or the said parties use the argument of the importance of the civil Societies – NGO 's that they perform and can perform very important and significant role in daily functioning of society, government – the vast army of EU institutions – yet then because it does not suit the plan or the power constellations refute or ignore their function and abilities.
We have argued about those who have decided to muzzle the civil societies and the NGO's create financial, environment and legislations they they become the under dog, they cannot perform and cannot act as they are meant to function. The greater political agenda – the agenda of One world government and the involvement of the last Two former USA President, that of President Bill Clinton and President G Bush and the state of the world. Inventing and creating enemies – the very civil societies and NGO 's as enemy of the state and the people.
Most important given the none existence means addressed some of the issues at the SIROP blog a link we will attached to this article.
Having state what we have, we also wish to mention the discussion and approach we have build and put together our community portal project – how it have influence development of the Euro. The ECB, the politic and national economy of many EU member states, the politic of EU and other institutions functioning. Had we not had this portal project – in the events of the world situation the greater and worser situation we would have been in. We have equally argued that we are prepared to prove this by shutting down the portal for 6 months and allow those who can the possibilities to monitor events and outcomes.
We want to take this opportunity to lodge our protest at the EU institutions, the many important institutions involved in marking this 20 years of history and events and we, nobody form our Sechelles Seychelles EU community involved, requested to come or participate in any events. Using a bit of logic this is the exact and kind of recipe for trouble and problematic to develop – those who understand public office, function and management and workings. How governments are run.
We have decided to add two picture of the House, property where most of these events and issues played out in London – Britain, 87a Victoria Road – the old coach House, ex British Refugee council Housing Properties. We have also added a picture of the Center in Hounslow where our Seychelles exile community was based and worked with support and assistance from Hounslow voluntary Action and the elderly Group. against the better judgment of many leading Voluntary agencies, workers, community activist – our community created the SIROP etc unofficial exile return program and how we worked and when about promoting it. Beside the involvement of other Seychelles EU Exile and refugees groups and political parties.
Work on the Commuity coat of arms was started in Vienna 1978 there about, because we had been convinced of the exile community return to Seychelles – those involved how we would rebuild the Sechelles – Seychelles EU community network.The future Seychelles, The need to have a coat of Arms and flag to reflect this. They are both included below.
On behalf of our communities in EU, their ancestral archaic/fraternal – Christian heritage, their respective leadership and executives, families, their organs wish those gathered in Phrag Conference to mark 20th year history and events, success and our best wishes to the people of their Nation and EU. The outcome of this year election across the EU, how it could have been very much other wise.
http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/5years/news/090501_en.htm
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Friday, 3 April 2009
NATO 60th Anniversary celebration in Strassbourg
NATO 60th Anniversary celebration in Strassbourg
When we compare Bod Geldoff – manner to present and address the issues he did at the G20 Summit in comparison to the first Live Aid – Ethiopia famine, the vitality, the dynamic, the drive the utter zeal and conviction he and all of us confronted the issues. The over polite and over groomed manner he addressed the issues once again at the G20 Summit – yet should the true facts be detailed and presented properly those world leaders who have failed in a very big way their office and responsibilities over the past 10 years the reason the world has reached and arrived where we are. Individuals like himself and many others who have been muzzled and psychologically refrained from acting and speaking out and the fast degrading situation – those political elites who think and their media they alone can run and rule the world.
Yet the vast many demonstrators and those who did not demonstrate or took part their views – the political system has failed and is failing.
We have started this thread with those issues to point out how terrible those elected by the respective citizens of our world and society are managing and reacting – why so. For those who are not naive NATO is the killing Machine – instrument of the West and EU full stop. This is not about civilized killing machine- if it adopted this posture and attitude it would not be in a position as a Military Organization to function over is opposition – enemy the Russian, the Chinese, the Arab and others.
Just like those attending the G20 world Summit in London have failed and are failing to take into proper account what has led them to come together – their polite public show, leaving out the much more serious and grave issues – who will attend or tackle them. When other do then they come back and behave like uneducated pigs.
On this 60th Anniversary of NATO we want to ask a very crucial question to those responsible and leading, the Generals and the politicians - because we can.
1 – Had the COMECON change not taken place where would NATO be today and even in the schools and class rooms the school children will answer, those who in 10 -15 years later take up their boots, arms etc and fight for NATO. The answers should it be explained to all,those school children in EU. The world and EU a different place – there would and should have been a major military conflict – Nuclear or otherwise - , those form the Civic societies, NGO, Church , voluntary armies – who see the purpose and function of human and mankind different – the mega efforts they took and used to avoid and change the course of History – not NATO and their propaganda Machine.
Fortunately in EU we have certain very important institutions – what we have come to term our ancestral archaic/fraternal – Christian heritage – they those responsible how they manage information and those ancient an historic events of our ancestors – when NATO was not around. Their abilities and resource available to monitor and confront in instance when those who loose their Heads or over zeal advocate and lend to the spreading of distortion, lies and unwarranted propagandas to suit their ends.
At this Morning and 60th NATO Anniversary – individuals like Lech WwValensa of Solidarnos , those who former d the nucleus of the protest at Danzig ought to have been present and interviewed. Not the current Polish politicians and their media crooks.
Those who served in the Office of Pope John Paul ll closely involved in monitoring the crucial and unofficial issues of the Danzig protest – it could have been that those who really know and were involved instead of supporting Lech Walensa and the strikers whisper to the Military and the Soviet Generals - the outcome would have been very different. The Polish Military and the Soviet would have used force – we know this for certain- those at the time who knew.
They ought to interview those involved in the protest in Czechoslovakia at the time Lech Walensa started the Danzig protest – rather the protest started and equally the Romanian parties.
From the former East Germany there are very many around including Chancellor Merkle – shame on her and the Deputy Leader of Mr Oscar Lafontaine Party, their duplicity , arrogance and distorted presentation of what took place and how changes really come to Germany and the German reunification. ( We have been brought to have respect for our archaic/fraternal and Christian heritage and institutions – what is taken place in Germany currently in economic term and began under chancellor Schroeder - their dishonest manner and way they have been manipulating and presenting to the world the changing which came to Germany and why. Today NATO 60 th Anniversary and those in Germany who cannot differentiate between their enemies and friends – a bit of the same attitude and malaise like the USA, the British. Those who have saved their arse – their nation, dignity and values they threat like Terrorist , let loose their dogs and use every methods to obliterate and they thing history and those archaic/fraternal – Christan heritage and mechanism will forgive and let them get away with it. )
Then we turn to today Russia – former USSR, those around then President Gorbachev, what really took place. The visit to London of President Gorbachev and the issues of Lady Tacther – which really got him into big trouble with the Generals and the former Soviet system those who had suspected and knew something was very wrong – the efforts by then Lady Tacthers. Those who misjudged or were misinformed and believed that Lady Tacther was puling the string or certain in London and they were very wrong with all their leading experts, massive resource and knowledge. They ought to find out what really took place that led to President Gorbachev almost being killed and President Yeltsin taking over and his people - they ought to be interviewed – we are not dealing with a Terrorist nation we are dealing with the former USSR - the party that sent shiver in the spine of mothers, children , babies and grandparents/elderly in the West. What really happened - their views and acessment of NATO then and the development of NATO these past 18years – the many bogus Wars started for political, big money and dubious reasons and the Western media involvement.
There is the need to get those around President Francois Mitterrand this morning who really knew what was happening then – our French archaic/fraternal and Christian heritage and their mechanism being applied and the media then – those those scums running around Paris today. For those Military General who have given some of the best military education to those young French soldiers – when you have a situation or system build heavily upon distortions and disinformation something will give in - collapse and this is What NATO is all about.
The important question we want to ask the French Senate this Morning , the French People and the very many French Institutions and the President of France - had we not put that link of NATYO on our Sechelles – Seychelles EU community portal the synergy/.dynamic and the many important issues that have come about because of this the past 6months almost - would France have joined NATO. Those from Lady Tacther's office, Prime minister John Major, Prime Minister Blair, the many USA Presidents, the Russians, - those who knew and were aware of our debacles and the issues we were involved the confrontation between the French Military and those from NATO interest - what has happened – did these never take place. The intelligence and system in place today which lead and make those take certain decision and the position – the terrible media role.
Equally those from Vienna at the time of the Lech Walensa debacle, the first sign of the Danzig protest – the undercurrent then. Those around chancellor Kreisky what they knew and what they have never told the world - the world and western media feeding the crap and lies to the world and so call political decision machine. We have said ofter the role of Austria in the 1st world war and the 2nd world war and the debacle yes or no to do something to change the situation in the COMECON AND IT what MANNER OFR FORM SO THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO HACVE A CONFRONTATION WITH THE Soviets – USSR AND THE WARSAW BLOCK THEN. They ought to be at the 60th Ceremony – along with those there not just the current dishonest bunch – who is leading the world to fiasco.
Then there those in Italy – then Office of Andreotti - their archaic/.fraternal =- Christan mechanism and that of Vatican being applied and used then and was used all along until 1997 they ought to be there this morning and be given the opportunity to say what happened and warned those Generals and their politicians.
Last we turned to those in the USA who were there at the time of President Ronald Reagen and President George Bush Senior later. The blood lies of US media, their intelligence Service and many others – what really led and what mechanism was used that President Ronald Reagen was elected and the reason he was elected as President of the USA – like President Clinton and current President Obama – the media lies, the establishment lies, the military lies and those from the greater public who have know otherwise and let themselves and their children be drag along in the mess.
President Ronald Reagen in private and in person knew the real role of Walensa, those in Vatican, those in France, Vienna, those in Germany, those in USSR, Those in Italy and those in London. The scenario with the media, the generals and those historians have repainted – the secrets which such individual have taken to therm graves – the current NATO and its 60th anniversary.
We ask those from the USA archaic/fraternal and Christian heritage who knew or learned of what took place and was taking to come forward. The fact that for the past 30 years there is and have existed two or three system in place in the world involved in managing, coping and taking care of those issues – NATO 6o th anniversary today – those individuals and people will not be around except those politicians and their friends.
What about those in china at the time for all the Chinese secrecy and so call Chinese Curtain like the soviet – their ability to gather and collect vital and whatever information they deem is relevant for their country at the time – their knowledge and what the Chinese public were told and what their media were told. The role and position of China in the then military COMECON – Warsaw debacle and the protest in Danzig by Walensa and the start of Solidarnos.
very important the role of Dr Butros Butros Ghali – those who really knew and know what led to his election as Secretary of the UN then Lady Tacther knowledge and the position of the UN at the time of the COMECON existence, Warsaw Pact how they reacted and responded – the evaluation of Dr Burtos Ghali Office. How UN persive those involve in the mega changes of the COMECON and then NATO role – all those who have done the dirty work for NATO Generals and their machine – today and over the past 15 years their arrogance and political attitude – those in current Russia whop had suspected, been informed and aware of how these issues affect and impact NATO and Western allies decision Making process.
The World and EU have got a very Serious – those we will not wast words small politicians who are playing gods with people destiny because they have been elected – once elected they develop and create laws and system to dominate and Lord over the very citizens who have put them in Power.
Most important we have the role of those Policing and involved in Policing such events like the Current Strasbourg 60th NATO Anniversary – the manner and methods – they have no rights to be there – they do not know what they are protecting and defending – whatever orders and guideline they have been given – how can the the Police of a Nation protect and defend something they do not know about or what really they are protecting – resulting in scenario like TV and video Games and the such.
Those youth and citizens who are not stupid and realize aspect of many aspect of these development and their respond and reaction.
Finally we want to address those attending that NATO 60th anniversary – they rely heavily for computer science and resource in almost every sphere of their work and commitments – those in Israel who have sued the computer science to predict and forecast a Major military confrontation at hand and inevitable – this could and should have taken place those again from the NGO, the Church and other Civil bodies who are doing the dirty work and job of NATO those General and their [politicians nasties and they turn round with the help of the media crooks and take the credit, the lime light etc. - somebody somewhere ought to try this refuse to vie or look any such TV program right across the world – this will send the right message to NATO and their Generals and those politicians involved and the police without having to go on the streets.
Then there is the issues of the many bogus and current issues NATO is involved and deploying their forces and resources – the dishonesty, the lies and manipulative aspect of the media or certain medias – chuting out what are the other factors and dynamic causing the given conflicts and their development – those who have know and involved in such issues over the past 25 years in very important manner. Including the election of NATO Heads and their staff for the the media circus and lies or what news information come out of NATO.
What we will not write about the role and impact our Seychelles EU community coat of Arms played/have played and impacted NATO those who monitor, study and manage such arcahic/fraternal - Christain heritage, their issues. ( The reason we became very angry with President FA Rene - those arround him who understand Military issues - the Russian, Chinese and others over this project - again the issues of that mega earth quake and the Tsunami of 2004/5the lies and coverup)
Polite note:
We have not edited this thread properly - excuse.
When we compare Bod Geldoff – manner to present and address the issues he did at the G20 Summit in comparison to the first Live Aid – Ethiopia famine, the vitality, the dynamic, the drive the utter zeal and conviction he and all of us confronted the issues. The over polite and over groomed manner he addressed the issues once again at the G20 Summit – yet should the true facts be detailed and presented properly those world leaders who have failed in a very big way their office and responsibilities over the past 10 years the reason the world has reached and arrived where we are. Individuals like himself and many others who have been muzzled and psychologically refrained from acting and speaking out and the fast degrading situation – those political elites who think and their media they alone can run and rule the world.
Yet the vast many demonstrators and those who did not demonstrate or took part their views – the political system has failed and is failing.
We have started this thread with those issues to point out how terrible those elected by the respective citizens of our world and society are managing and reacting – why so. For those who are not naive NATO is the killing Machine – instrument of the West and EU full stop. This is not about civilized killing machine- if it adopted this posture and attitude it would not be in a position as a Military Organization to function over is opposition – enemy the Russian, the Chinese, the Arab and others.
Just like those attending the G20 world Summit in London have failed and are failing to take into proper account what has led them to come together – their polite public show, leaving out the much more serious and grave issues – who will attend or tackle them. When other do then they come back and behave like uneducated pigs.
On this 60th Anniversary of NATO we want to ask a very crucial question to those responsible and leading, the Generals and the politicians - because we can.
1 – Had the COMECON change not taken place where would NATO be today and even in the schools and class rooms the school children will answer, those who in 10 -15 years later take up their boots, arms etc and fight for NATO. The answers should it be explained to all,those school children in EU. The world and EU a different place – there would and should have been a major military conflict – Nuclear or otherwise - , those form the Civic societies, NGO, Church , voluntary armies – who see the purpose and function of human and mankind different – the mega efforts they took and used to avoid and change the course of History – not NATO and their propaganda Machine.
Fortunately in EU we have certain very important institutions – what we have come to term our ancestral archaic/fraternal – Christian heritage – they those responsible how they manage information and those ancient an historic events of our ancestors – when NATO was not around. Their abilities and resource available to monitor and confront in instance when those who loose their Heads or over zeal advocate and lend to the spreading of distortion, lies and unwarranted propagandas to suit their ends.
At this Morning and 60th NATO Anniversary – individuals like Lech WwValensa of Solidarnos , those who former d the nucleus of the protest at Danzig ought to have been present and interviewed. Not the current Polish politicians and their media crooks.
Those who served in the Office of Pope John Paul ll closely involved in monitoring the crucial and unofficial issues of the Danzig protest – it could have been that those who really know and were involved instead of supporting Lech Walensa and the strikers whisper to the Military and the Soviet Generals - the outcome would have been very different. The Polish Military and the Soviet would have used force – we know this for certain- those at the time who knew.
They ought to interview those involved in the protest in Czechoslovakia at the time Lech Walensa started the Danzig protest – rather the protest started and equally the Romanian parties.
From the former East Germany there are very many around including Chancellor Merkle – shame on her and the Deputy Leader of Mr Oscar Lafontaine Party, their duplicity , arrogance and distorted presentation of what took place and how changes really come to Germany and the German reunification. ( We have been brought to have respect for our archaic/fraternal and Christian heritage and institutions – what is taken place in Germany currently in economic term and began under chancellor Schroeder - their dishonest manner and way they have been manipulating and presenting to the world the changing which came to Germany and why. Today NATO 60 th Anniversary and those in Germany who cannot differentiate between their enemies and friends – a bit of the same attitude and malaise like the USA, the British. Those who have saved their arse – their nation, dignity and values they threat like Terrorist , let loose their dogs and use every methods to obliterate and they thing history and those archaic/fraternal – Christan heritage and mechanism will forgive and let them get away with it. )
Then we turn to today Russia – former USSR, those around then President Gorbachev, what really took place. The visit to London of President Gorbachev and the issues of Lady Tacther – which really got him into big trouble with the Generals and the former Soviet system those who had suspected and knew something was very wrong – the efforts by then Lady Tacthers. Those who misjudged or were misinformed and believed that Lady Tacther was puling the string or certain in London and they were very wrong with all their leading experts, massive resource and knowledge. They ought to find out what really took place that led to President Gorbachev almost being killed and President Yeltsin taking over and his people - they ought to be interviewed – we are not dealing with a Terrorist nation we are dealing with the former USSR - the party that sent shiver in the spine of mothers, children , babies and grandparents/elderly in the West. What really happened - their views and acessment of NATO then and the development of NATO these past 18years – the many bogus Wars started for political, big money and dubious reasons and the Western media involvement.
There is the need to get those around President Francois Mitterrand this morning who really knew what was happening then – our French archaic/fraternal and Christian heritage and their mechanism being applied and the media then – those those scums running around Paris today. For those Military General who have given some of the best military education to those young French soldiers – when you have a situation or system build heavily upon distortions and disinformation something will give in - collapse and this is What NATO is all about.
The important question we want to ask the French Senate this Morning , the French People and the very many French Institutions and the President of France - had we not put that link of NATYO on our Sechelles – Seychelles EU community portal the synergy/.dynamic and the many important issues that have come about because of this the past 6months almost - would France have joined NATO. Those from Lady Tacther's office, Prime minister John Major, Prime Minister Blair, the many USA Presidents, the Russians, - those who knew and were aware of our debacles and the issues we were involved the confrontation between the French Military and those from NATO interest - what has happened – did these never take place. The intelligence and system in place today which lead and make those take certain decision and the position – the terrible media role.
Equally those from Vienna at the time of the Lech Walensa debacle, the first sign of the Danzig protest – the undercurrent then. Those around chancellor Kreisky what they knew and what they have never told the world - the world and western media feeding the crap and lies to the world and so call political decision machine. We have said ofter the role of Austria in the 1st world war and the 2nd world war and the debacle yes or no to do something to change the situation in the COMECON AND IT what MANNER OFR FORM SO THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO HACVE A CONFRONTATION WITH THE Soviets – USSR AND THE WARSAW BLOCK THEN. They ought to be at the 60th Ceremony – along with those there not just the current dishonest bunch – who is leading the world to fiasco.
Then there those in Italy – then Office of Andreotti - their archaic/.fraternal =- Christan mechanism and that of Vatican being applied and used then and was used all along until 1997 they ought to be there this morning and be given the opportunity to say what happened and warned those Generals and their politicians.
Last we turned to those in the USA who were there at the time of President Ronald Reagen and President George Bush Senior later. The blood lies of US media, their intelligence Service and many others – what really led and what mechanism was used that President Ronald Reagen was elected and the reason he was elected as President of the USA – like President Clinton and current President Obama – the media lies, the establishment lies, the military lies and those from the greater public who have know otherwise and let themselves and their children be drag along in the mess.
President Ronald Reagen in private and in person knew the real role of Walensa, those in Vatican, those in France, Vienna, those in Germany, those in USSR, Those in Italy and those in London. The scenario with the media, the generals and those historians have repainted – the secrets which such individual have taken to therm graves – the current NATO and its 60th anniversary.
We ask those from the USA archaic/fraternal and Christian heritage who knew or learned of what took place and was taking to come forward. The fact that for the past 30 years there is and have existed two or three system in place in the world involved in managing, coping and taking care of those issues – NATO 6o th anniversary today – those individuals and people will not be around except those politicians and their friends.
What about those in china at the time for all the Chinese secrecy and so call Chinese Curtain like the soviet – their ability to gather and collect vital and whatever information they deem is relevant for their country at the time – their knowledge and what the Chinese public were told and what their media were told. The role and position of China in the then military COMECON – Warsaw debacle and the protest in Danzig by Walensa and the start of Solidarnos.
very important the role of Dr Butros Butros Ghali – those who really knew and know what led to his election as Secretary of the UN then Lady Tacther knowledge and the position of the UN at the time of the COMECON existence, Warsaw Pact how they reacted and responded – the evaluation of Dr Burtos Ghali Office. How UN persive those involve in the mega changes of the COMECON and then NATO role – all those who have done the dirty work for NATO Generals and their machine – today and over the past 15 years their arrogance and political attitude – those in current Russia whop had suspected, been informed and aware of how these issues affect and impact NATO and Western allies decision Making process.
The World and EU have got a very Serious – those we will not wast words small politicians who are playing gods with people destiny because they have been elected – once elected they develop and create laws and system to dominate and Lord over the very citizens who have put them in Power.
Most important we have the role of those Policing and involved in Policing such events like the Current Strasbourg 60th NATO Anniversary – the manner and methods – they have no rights to be there – they do not know what they are protecting and defending – whatever orders and guideline they have been given – how can the the Police of a Nation protect and defend something they do not know about or what really they are protecting – resulting in scenario like TV and video Games and the such.
Those youth and citizens who are not stupid and realize aspect of many aspect of these development and their respond and reaction.
Finally we want to address those attending that NATO 60th anniversary – they rely heavily for computer science and resource in almost every sphere of their work and commitments – those in Israel who have sued the computer science to predict and forecast a Major military confrontation at hand and inevitable – this could and should have taken place those again from the NGO, the Church and other Civil bodies who are doing the dirty work and job of NATO those General and their [politicians nasties and they turn round with the help of the media crooks and take the credit, the lime light etc. - somebody somewhere ought to try this refuse to vie or look any such TV program right across the world – this will send the right message to NATO and their Generals and those politicians involved and the police without having to go on the streets.
Then there is the issues of the many bogus and current issues NATO is involved and deploying their forces and resources – the dishonesty, the lies and manipulative aspect of the media or certain medias – chuting out what are the other factors and dynamic causing the given conflicts and their development – those who have know and involved in such issues over the past 25 years in very important manner. Including the election of NATO Heads and their staff for the the media circus and lies or what news information come out of NATO.
What we will not write about the role and impact our Seychelles EU community coat of Arms played/have played and impacted NATO those who monitor, study and manage such arcahic/fraternal - Christain heritage, their issues. ( The reason we became very angry with President FA Rene - those arround him who understand Military issues - the Russian, Chinese and others over this project - again the issues of that mega earth quake and the Tsunami of 2004/5the lies and coverup)
Polite note:
We have not edited this thread properly - excuse.
Tuesday, 31 March 2009
Chancellor Merkle awaited Opel speech – still no Investor 18.45 pm Phoenix TV
Firstly we wish to ask everybody to get Grubi that flipping “bib sega” to open his ears very big and wide what we are about to say, then go and tell everybody in the SDP English - SPD German that way he gets accolade. promotion, recognition and we get dirt.
Yesterday right across the board except one or two Markets had green indicators most had red indicators pointing down some as much as 250 points.
Today the Market has picked up again – the so call experts given their usual dishonest – lies and con why the Market have climbed again.
We have been “listing” for feed back and “buzz “ about that thread we wrote concerning prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi new political party – just in case those who think we are very deaf – the announcement by certain High parties in Washington a serious deal with GM can only be considered with Fiat involvement -
Now Grubi you “bib Sega” ( the first German bib Sega we came across was in Nuremberg long before the Berlin Wall came down – only for those who know what we are talking about) we have written over the past 15 years and explained that we have contributed and supported mergers of large multinational – among some of these are the Motor Industry – be they German, French, Scandinavian, Italian, British, USA, Japanese and Chinese, South African and Latin American. Those who know and have monitored our involvements. Then come important debacle everybody forgets and have forgotten - some obscure experts or group of experts instead are given the benefits and publicly acknowledge – then we /the mass, the public wonder what the meltdown take place.
All those who know from GM and Ford the reason, the battle they haver been building their so call port folio and why ( to be polite we cal on their and our archaic/fraternal – Christian disciplines to be involved)
We have been following the debacle about the Motor industry ever since the first financial blow up took place – part of our way of monitoring and evaluating those issues – the performance in the Motor industry – the knowledge and expertise we have acquired over the past 25 years.
This thread is about Opel and we will try to stick to it – the debacle about Opel for the past two months.
We have tried to follow as many as we can the TV discussions, protest, trade union issues, the position all major German political parties including the long awaited speech by Chancellor Merkle today. ( We also followed the issues of the Gulf Abu Dabi acquisition of 8% in the Daimler Group – what to certain extent prompted this)
There is a very major problem here and we wish to say it plainly and bluntly – the very easy manner and way many very leading EU, USA, Russia and Chinese politicians forgets or the mechanism in place that they forget.
Grubi you bib Sega now get mad, throw a tantrum, swear at all the Seychellois – including the grave of their ancestors in France, Reunion, Mauritius and Seychelles beside other part of the world they have migrated for the past 300 years.
In that SIROP CDU/ DP/alliance/SNM/, MPR exile return program of 1987 – 1991 there about. Mr Giovanni Mario Ricci was very much involved and taking the best of the cream and making the best cheese. Along with the political process in many of the former COMECON countries, the political debacle in Northern Ireland – for a longterm and stable process and political future in the Indian Ocean that Seychelles as 3rd Republic ought to have a two tier Parliament System an Upper House and a lower House – A Senate type of Parliament – to be debated once we all got to Seychelles. The CIA, the Pentagon, the White House, most of the Russian, Chinese, British, French, aspects of South African, German institutions and that of EU were reasonably informed – including the UN.
We the Sechelles – Seychelles people in EU and the Indian Ocean we have a some what antiquated way of doing things – those who have passed away their specializations and those alive.
There were three important issues related and linked – the Italian past P2 connection - current Italian archaic/fraternal Christian and business - diplomatic heritage, the political system. Then the French archaic/fraternal – Christian and political or historic system. The USA We then had the issues of the Senator Car in Britain the issues and in Germany Opel Car Manufacture – all the debacle and scandals, the rip off, the fortunes and the $ billions everybody have made – the dirty politics. In Britain the car with the name Senator is /was manufactured by Vauxhall. Then there was the old mobile Homes and the new mobile homes with the name Senator – the issues of our one bed office/home Emperor those who have made their %$billions, their dirty politics , their rip off , their killing and the bloody mess. What has led to GM from acquiring those brand name with Senator – how this work and why. Those who have made their big money on the back of the daily and monthly and yearly issues – in the media they lie, at the many big Board meeting they lie on and on.
The mechanism behind that mega Earthquake and the Tsunami of 2004/5 is part of the issues. We have stated this time and time again.
In the Indian Ocean, African Union former OAU those who knew and have known the Seychelles community in EU after events of 1991 in Seychelles we still had an Agenda, FA Rene and the SPPF, Mancham and his DP and Waval and his people .
You do not get to mechanize, build such massive system dynamic, connection to propell or catapult an issue or events for nothing and just forget it – like many of the loony world politicians you wake up the next day it was never there - nobody knew about this or it.
Those who have come to Seychelles, those from South Africa, those from Mauritius and Reunion, France or Italy who have capitalize on this debacle and issues very importantly and the involvement of GM or the White House or the State Department or their USA the Pentagon or the media.
Over the past 60 days nobody have mentioned anything about this or these – yet one cannot watch a half decent TV program if some scum bags does not start Freemason this or Freemason that and Freemason everybody.
We say it again - there was reason those who slaughtered Professor Micheal Hoffman did what they did – the difference between his Interdisciplinary Management Institute and that of the Davos lot/. Because his discipline and synergistic mechanism was being used and applied not Davos.
Having said this those who have ask how can we make Alitalia work and the many other times we have been involved and made help Fiat get out of terrible situation. Because we have certain abilities.
We have followed and contributed to some of the Opel development over the past 60 days not in any robust manner - those who knew our ability would have spotted it immediately.
In good English we are absolutely cheese off and hence our tone and language with Grubi – we know what goes on in Seychelles and Germany – and the AKS forum and the ruddy Circus.
We have the capacity and ability to grab and nail an investor for the Opel Car manufacture – the reason we have not done so is the shitty and shoddy treatment we have been getting from the time of Chancellor Schroeder – the scam, the con and crap those politicians who go about using other knowledge and abilities, they use their political Godly powers to shut others up and let the dog loose on them. Including those SEPEC Tankers and a number of other important Corporate issues.
We want to spell it to the leading German thinkers, their industrialist, their politician, their Trade Union and their Intelligence Service – check with the core of the Davos lot those who have 30 years or so in high management – when you have build a product or a major development program around a given archaic/fraternal – Christian discipline and their dynamic - before you dismantle or change the system you have better know what your are doing other wise you will lend up in a terrible mess.
We have - still been calling JA Michel government for a Senate parliament system the very dangerous political blow up all over the Indian ocean and Madagascar.
With FA Rene when we did that SIROP program he underlined and nailed it that we have to come with an economic package and if we went back upon our words and betrayed him – there would be hell, to pay from the Pentagon, the Russian, the NATO or the Chinese and all the combine world , Freemason or Fraternal establishment they know what we are saying here.
Recently Mancham put together a think Tank and the terrible mess in Seychelles and the region -,. that Senate parliament system in Seychelles can still be put in place or the government will be overwhelmed with challenges in the distance future and even when a change came the political situation -
We brought the Berlin Wall down together, the German Reunification, the changes in the USSR, the changes in the COMECON, the Treuhand debacle – President Obama have ask around what does SIROP want – a Senate parliament system in Seychelles will guarantee political and economic development over the next 15 years and that of the Indian Ocean Nations and contribute importantly to African Union.
The $ billions he intend to pump in GM - he ought to make his own research what was going in the Grey areas that nobody wrote about officially and like wise German Chancellor Merkle and our friend Mr Oscar Lafontaine, he know a great deal he is not talking about and the egg pelting he got recently.
We have said it and we say it again - you want to decouple and leave us in the cold we are the grand children of 5th generation of French - European of Indian ocean and across the world- you know the rules when it come to ancient archaic/fraternal and Christian heritage and their application .- we will and can find other solutions – we have taken the time and addressed the issue publicly. Not in A lodge or via an Embassy or the such.
Now those of you who specialize in scamming and drinking blood like all crazy sharks – we have shown you where the $ billions lies and the blood, enjoy yourself as you have done it the past – also remember we may all short live, our children and grand children.
We have two lawyers in Seychelles you can contact or get involve with -, lawyers Pesi Pardiwally Townmey and Lablach or Mr Phillipe Boule our preference in the former.
We have a polite request to Sir James Mancham – do not think or try like in that Pirate film – the famous pirate who wanted that ancient Gold chair of the Incas the Spanish and the French and the British tried to steal in the end he/ the pirate plundered that ship and he made of in the Sunset alone and his Inca Gold Chair and an apprentice – just like the Senate issues this will and can have a very bad ending in term of archaic/fraternal – Christian heritage/ disciplines.
http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-autos/idUSTRE52U4I220090331
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=vauxhall+Senator&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
http://www.penrosetouring.co.uk/acatalog/Bailey_Senator_Series.html
Yesterday right across the board except one or two Markets had green indicators most had red indicators pointing down some as much as 250 points.
Today the Market has picked up again – the so call experts given their usual dishonest – lies and con why the Market have climbed again.
We have been “listing” for feed back and “buzz “ about that thread we wrote concerning prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi new political party – just in case those who think we are very deaf – the announcement by certain High parties in Washington a serious deal with GM can only be considered with Fiat involvement -
Now Grubi you “bib Sega” ( the first German bib Sega we came across was in Nuremberg long before the Berlin Wall came down – only for those who know what we are talking about) we have written over the past 15 years and explained that we have contributed and supported mergers of large multinational – among some of these are the Motor Industry – be they German, French, Scandinavian, Italian, British, USA, Japanese and Chinese, South African and Latin American. Those who know and have monitored our involvements. Then come important debacle everybody forgets and have forgotten - some obscure experts or group of experts instead are given the benefits and publicly acknowledge – then we /the mass, the public wonder what the meltdown take place.
All those who know from GM and Ford the reason, the battle they haver been building their so call port folio and why ( to be polite we cal on their and our archaic/fraternal – Christian disciplines to be involved)
We have been following the debacle about the Motor industry ever since the first financial blow up took place – part of our way of monitoring and evaluating those issues – the performance in the Motor industry – the knowledge and expertise we have acquired over the past 25 years.
This thread is about Opel and we will try to stick to it – the debacle about Opel for the past two months.
We have tried to follow as many as we can the TV discussions, protest, trade union issues, the position all major German political parties including the long awaited speech by Chancellor Merkle today. ( We also followed the issues of the Gulf Abu Dabi acquisition of 8% in the Daimler Group – what to certain extent prompted this)
There is a very major problem here and we wish to say it plainly and bluntly – the very easy manner and way many very leading EU, USA, Russia and Chinese politicians forgets or the mechanism in place that they forget.
Grubi you bib Sega now get mad, throw a tantrum, swear at all the Seychellois – including the grave of their ancestors in France, Reunion, Mauritius and Seychelles beside other part of the world they have migrated for the past 300 years.
In that SIROP CDU/ DP/alliance/SNM/, MPR exile return program of 1987 – 1991 there about. Mr Giovanni Mario Ricci was very much involved and taking the best of the cream and making the best cheese. Along with the political process in many of the former COMECON countries, the political debacle in Northern Ireland – for a longterm and stable process and political future in the Indian Ocean that Seychelles as 3rd Republic ought to have a two tier Parliament System an Upper House and a lower House – A Senate type of Parliament – to be debated once we all got to Seychelles. The CIA, the Pentagon, the White House, most of the Russian, Chinese, British, French, aspects of South African, German institutions and that of EU were reasonably informed – including the UN.
We the Sechelles – Seychelles people in EU and the Indian Ocean we have a some what antiquated way of doing things – those who have passed away their specializations and those alive.
There were three important issues related and linked – the Italian past P2 connection - current Italian archaic/fraternal Christian and business - diplomatic heritage, the political system. Then the French archaic/fraternal – Christian and political or historic system. The USA We then had the issues of the Senator Car in Britain the issues and in Germany Opel Car Manufacture – all the debacle and scandals, the rip off, the fortunes and the $ billions everybody have made – the dirty politics. In Britain the car with the name Senator is /was manufactured by Vauxhall. Then there was the old mobile Homes and the new mobile homes with the name Senator – the issues of our one bed office/home Emperor those who have made their %$billions, their dirty politics , their rip off , their killing and the bloody mess. What has led to GM from acquiring those brand name with Senator – how this work and why. Those who have made their big money on the back of the daily and monthly and yearly issues – in the media they lie, at the many big Board meeting they lie on and on.
The mechanism behind that mega Earthquake and the Tsunami of 2004/5 is part of the issues. We have stated this time and time again.
In the Indian Ocean, African Union former OAU those who knew and have known the Seychelles community in EU after events of 1991 in Seychelles we still had an Agenda, FA Rene and the SPPF, Mancham and his DP and Waval and his people .
You do not get to mechanize, build such massive system dynamic, connection to propell or catapult an issue or events for nothing and just forget it – like many of the loony world politicians you wake up the next day it was never there - nobody knew about this or it.
Those who have come to Seychelles, those from South Africa, those from Mauritius and Reunion, France or Italy who have capitalize on this debacle and issues very importantly and the involvement of GM or the White House or the State Department or their USA the Pentagon or the media.
Over the past 60 days nobody have mentioned anything about this or these – yet one cannot watch a half decent TV program if some scum bags does not start Freemason this or Freemason that and Freemason everybody.
We say it again - there was reason those who slaughtered Professor Micheal Hoffman did what they did – the difference between his Interdisciplinary Management Institute and that of the Davos lot/. Because his discipline and synergistic mechanism was being used and applied not Davos.
Having said this those who have ask how can we make Alitalia work and the many other times we have been involved and made help Fiat get out of terrible situation. Because we have certain abilities.
We have followed and contributed to some of the Opel development over the past 60 days not in any robust manner - those who knew our ability would have spotted it immediately.
In good English we are absolutely cheese off and hence our tone and language with Grubi – we know what goes on in Seychelles and Germany – and the AKS forum and the ruddy Circus.
We have the capacity and ability to grab and nail an investor for the Opel Car manufacture – the reason we have not done so is the shitty and shoddy treatment we have been getting from the time of Chancellor Schroeder – the scam, the con and crap those politicians who go about using other knowledge and abilities, they use their political Godly powers to shut others up and let the dog loose on them. Including those SEPEC Tankers and a number of other important Corporate issues.
We want to spell it to the leading German thinkers, their industrialist, their politician, their Trade Union and their Intelligence Service – check with the core of the Davos lot those who have 30 years or so in high management – when you have build a product or a major development program around a given archaic/fraternal – Christian discipline and their dynamic - before you dismantle or change the system you have better know what your are doing other wise you will lend up in a terrible mess.
We have - still been calling JA Michel government for a Senate parliament system the very dangerous political blow up all over the Indian ocean and Madagascar.
With FA Rene when we did that SIROP program he underlined and nailed it that we have to come with an economic package and if we went back upon our words and betrayed him – there would be hell, to pay from the Pentagon, the Russian, the NATO or the Chinese and all the combine world , Freemason or Fraternal establishment they know what we are saying here.
Recently Mancham put together a think Tank and the terrible mess in Seychelles and the region -,. that Senate parliament system in Seychelles can still be put in place or the government will be overwhelmed with challenges in the distance future and even when a change came the political situation -
We brought the Berlin Wall down together, the German Reunification, the changes in the USSR, the changes in the COMECON, the Treuhand debacle – President Obama have ask around what does SIROP want – a Senate parliament system in Seychelles will guarantee political and economic development over the next 15 years and that of the Indian Ocean Nations and contribute importantly to African Union.
The $ billions he intend to pump in GM - he ought to make his own research what was going in the Grey areas that nobody wrote about officially and like wise German Chancellor Merkle and our friend Mr Oscar Lafontaine, he know a great deal he is not talking about and the egg pelting he got recently.
We have said it and we say it again - you want to decouple and leave us in the cold we are the grand children of 5th generation of French - European of Indian ocean and across the world- you know the rules when it come to ancient archaic/fraternal and Christian heritage and their application .- we will and can find other solutions – we have taken the time and addressed the issue publicly. Not in A lodge or via an Embassy or the such.
Now those of you who specialize in scamming and drinking blood like all crazy sharks – we have shown you where the $ billions lies and the blood, enjoy yourself as you have done it the past – also remember we may all short live, our children and grand children.
We have two lawyers in Seychelles you can contact or get involve with -, lawyers Pesi Pardiwally Townmey and Lablach or Mr Phillipe Boule our preference in the former.
We have a polite request to Sir James Mancham – do not think or try like in that Pirate film – the famous pirate who wanted that ancient Gold chair of the Incas the Spanish and the French and the British tried to steal in the end he/ the pirate plundered that ship and he made of in the Sunset alone and his Inca Gold Chair and an apprentice – just like the Senate issues this will and can have a very bad ending in term of archaic/fraternal – Christian heritage/ disciplines.
http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-autos/idUSTRE52U4I220090331
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=vauxhall+Senator&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
http://www.penrosetouring.co.uk/acatalog/Bailey_Senator_Series.html
Sunday, 1 March 2009
Dr Samuele Bacchiocchi- SDA/Christian impute in the SIROP - CDU, SNM, SDP/Alliance exile return program of 1987/88.
Dr Samuele Bacchiocchi- SDA/Christian impute in the SIROP - CDU, SNM, SDP/Alliance exile return program of 1987/88.
We read of his death in the SDA Messenger of Sabbath/Saturday 20/02/09 Volume 114 and the arrangement for his by setting at Andrews in the USA.
In a number of articles, threads and correspondence we have stated that he had play a role in the above events and debacle of the SIROP etc exile return program and some of the issues of the changes in the COMECON – USSR, the Berlin Wall and German reunification and indeed the changes in Seychelles and the Indian Ocean - Africa, the role played by our church and its members in Seychelles from 1981 when we came to seek exile from Strasbourg in London, the SDA church in Strasbourg, the Country Life at the New Gallery – 123 Regent Street. Some of his Church program at the New Gallery then and Country Life Restaurant, Enton Hall in Godalming – Surrey.
The Seventh Day Adventist are like many other Christian congregations and gatherings – they have very many Resources, links, networks, possibilities, interest, areas of operation and commitments – Most important the needs like most Religious organizations and Churches to maintain certain discretions and most important to respect the Rules of Play – work.
There is much that one day we may write about our reason for coming into contact with Country life in London, later our travel to the USA, the role of the SDA church in the USA, EU, Africa and the Indian Ocean.
Just about every reasonable church member knew or had some notion of the Cold War and the issues of extreme Socialist or Communist – what was going on and being reported in the SDA media and indeed in their Areas of operation and responsibilities. On account of the situation going on in Seychelles – First the old Church school Mission – the reason for the Seychelles government to acquire this property, the issues of the persecutions, the division in the church, the pressure and the fight to compensate and give the SDA in Seychelles a new property – place of prayer.
The Seychelles exile community worked with all those Christians churches in Seychelles Africa the Indian ocean, Europe and USA, or the Vatican. With out the serious involvements of all those Church in our efforts to change Seychelles not using military means – or an invasion would have been unthinkable and with out their resources in the Indian Ocean, Africa, EU, USA, Asia
We have equally written a number of threads explaining that because of our French heritage and such Christians values those individuals before they had joined or decided to become politicians had been priest or had been in seminaries or given important education by the Church or their education system.
We had decided to enroll the support of the SDA USA that of EU and OAU in our none violence exile return program. Equally we had seek the important support – involvement of Vatican, the Church of England,, Jehovah Witness, and others.
In London there are those from the government, the police and intelligence Service who knew and monitored my relation with the Vatican Office in London and other such communication – most important the role of the Anglican church in Seychelles the Parti Seychellois Movement.
We have tried to explain more than once that we had a very through education – grounding before leaving Seychelles in 1976 for exile, the Christian political and social acquisitions then, the issues of the independence and later the one Party state the political and economical issues – social.
We have indicated we had very important involvements of other important Christian church bodies and those of you who know how they work in archaic/fraternal terms. Those leading priest involved like Labbe Pierre and others – rather we networked and linked together to bring changes or support.
There are those for the SDA Church who were aware and know of some of the issues, like wise the Church of England – equally the political spillover and the the media involvements. Individuals like Mr Gerrard Houreau and Mr Gabriel Houreau was aware of these issues and those form our exile communities with very close links to the church workings.
Dr Samuele Bacchiocchi had been one of those important links – some of the very important conferences he held in London – Brent, those who attended – what they were all about. We have stated that Mrs Tacther Government and the establishment in Britain was against the SIROP etc exile return they had wanted a military solution to Seychelles problems. How to go about gathering information and who was doing what in the Seychelles Community in Exile and in Seychelles or across the world. Their best option, that of the CIA to change Seychelles, the issues of BIOT, the issues of Seychelles in the Commonwealth and long term position in the Indian and OAU. They also had the firm view who they would like to take over Seychelles and run it.
Everybody knew our exile resource was very limited – at the same time we were being hounded, we were being controlled and manipulated; We decided by getting such large church organization involved – the British government, the media, the police and intelligence service and the Fraternal establishment could not destroy - kill, obliterate and make the lives and work of those church hell as they did ours.
In facts some of the meetings at Saint Vincent de Paul in Hounslow some of these issue came out.
It is very important to note that many from the Seychelles community in Exile including some of the Leadership - including Sir James Mancham was not aware what was going – the decision to keep those information from them and why. (Suddenly today Sir James Mancham considers himself a saint or almost a great Church leader – very tragic just to maintain his political power and con those who do not know better)
Dr Samuele Bacchiocchi, understood the working of the Vatican and the Catholic many Networks as well as the SDA in Britain, the USA importantly, EU and Africa. The very important moral, other support, role he played and the issues which we/I was able to communicate to him and he in turn dialague or present them to other important religious executives -
There were those from the SDA British Conference who knew his role and involvement and – the church practice of keeping quiet. Then there those in the Vatican – Rome who knew his involvements and role - why we had been in contact and entertained such issues via him.
Most important his role gently persuading the SDA of Britain - LONDON certain issue which they had no knowledge or notion – later they became arrogant and abused the system – importantly our Seychelles Italian archaic/fraternal connections.
The Seychelles government – Mr Giovanni Mario Ricca and a number of important personalities in Seychelles knew who he was and input, involvements or contributions. Including FA Rene. Dr Samuele Bacchiocchi, was one of those individual provided with important knowledge and information what that SIROP etc change was all about, the changes in the COMECON, USSR, Berlin Wall and Germany Reunification and South Africa developments/events
From the Seychelles SDA or Mauritius or the Indian Ocean or African communities who got mixed up informations - we were pretty clear of who was what and who was doing what in what capacity. The USA State Department, the CIA and Pentagon and certain white House Official were aware too.
We maintained contact with him trough out the process of the changes in Poland, the changes in USSR, the Fall of the Berlin Wall and German Reunification. The position of the many British government, the establishment and the media.
Once the decision had been taken that Seychelles would become multi party the need to maintain pressure from the respective Christian communities and churches across the world or their respective Head quarters.
The debacle of my not being able to return to Seychelles and form part of that change and new process was recorded and duly noted by all those Christian and church communities across the world or their respective Headquarters.
From 1991 since those historic changes the very many important events across the world – as such what we have come to Term the Interfaith involvements. This also form part of the discipline of IOIMF and practice.
What we are concern is that those politicians, their media, those involved and those who have had such responsibilities.
We are also very concern that the international media dishonest approach – those who have known all those issues and events, then suddenly turn round and tell blatant lies, disinformation – leading to the situation of the last Iraq invasion and the WDM.
Individual like Labbe Pierre, Pope John Paul and many of those leading church leaders must have been extremely hurt and grieving by such development and international situation.
We thank the might Lord and Ahllah for sending him when he did to become involve in our endeavors and his very unique contributions. - He belong to what the scripture or the Holy Koran and the Torah would say real Servant of God. For this position and role the Seychelles in indebted to him and his important Italian connections.
We take this opportunity to convey our very sincere condolence to his families, many friends, supports and fans across the world.
By writing what we have here even if it is just the iceberg of what took place those young individuals who one day will find themselves in the same situation and currently the gathering in Kenya of the young leaders, they will take a page of history – who and those who went about finding solution to the world very grave issues not by violence and military means but by divine powers like our great European ancestors. ( Those – the very many for the Seychelles exile community and indeed Seychelles who have ask and question the church and Christian involvement in the changes why we got them involved instead of a bloody blood bath – killing, taking revenge and robbing the banks and killing all the merchants and taking their money or those who have taken the properties of others. Those who think we are stupid and very weak for getting the church, those Christian involvements in that above Historic program and changes.
There has been great rewarding Christian development in COMECON, the USSR, Germany, The Indian Ocean, the OAU because of their involvement – the rewards of those individuals men and woman – the work, zeal, and fight for their belief. Their belief that with and through important Christian dedication, involvement – how society and life can be made different for all those involved in comparison to the pure political process and solutions.
We have written in many instance of the unique place and role that SDA Advent Center has played and is playing in Testifying against all those event and historic changes . Like in the holy scripture and the Torah or the Holy Koran that monument testify against those changes and those who go to pray and search God in their lives.
We watched a very good American film via the German TV on those Woman who played important role in the Wars and hard work to colonize the USA.
We also watched several documentaries on the seriousness of the existence of King Aurthur, the legends and the Round Table – the history and so call valor spread across Europe from 5th century to today.
We watched similar programs involving the Kings of Asian then – Indian and other rulers, dynasty.
Dr Samuele Bacchiocchi, understood a great many issues - we decided to watch the documentary of the origin of the Polynesians people and where they settled, their belief and the country they live today and the impact of the belief the land in comparison to Seychelles, Reunion,. Mauritius and their French - European Portuguese, Dutch, British and Italian involvements.
There are many form the SDA Church and movement in the India Ocean who will say we have tolld nothing of what was not known – by writing this brief blog we hadve confirmed this. Should anybody else wish they can join our Blog SIROP etc and contribute to this article.
Thank you
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Monday, 1 December 2008
The terrible state of things, which is compelling young Seychellois business man and their families to leave Seychelles.
The terrible state of things, which is compelling young Seychellois business man and their families to leave Seychelles.
On AKS forum as one review some of the threads unlike the government paper Nation, Seychelles weekly, People, the two other local news paper. The criticism of life, situation and government and its system/apparachick handling of many of its young business man and their families.
We went through that process in 1976 shortly after independence, leaving business, property, child, friends and families behind and a very nice country to go to Austria – Vienna then. We were young full of adventure spirit, wishing and wanting to discover what Europe had to offer or could offer better than Seychelles. Then the Coup D'etat came and the one Party state – the ruthless, brutal, evil and painful experience hundreds of families had to go through. Loosing their properties, life which their ancestors had fought and paid with their blood – compelled to leave in strange countries, as strangers, exile, refugees – all the very negative facts and issues associated with such life.
Those that lost their wife, families, friends, a great deal of money, their health and desire to live even. Forget about the painful and biter division, enmity, terrible hate and some of the death which took place. We have compressed 15 – 30 years of bitterness into tow paragraph which does not do it justice and those who suffered and have bee traumatized.
Under this circumstance Mr Walter Edmond – Westerholt found himself migrating to Germany. First to Nuremberg then Berlin. The friends and families who help then.
We have stated on our Seychelles EU community FECAS – ECSVS on line – web project how and where we started those who came to our support and help. In turn how we united to help change the political, social and economic situation in Seychelles, our learning experience to help change the COMECON, the USSR, the Berlin Wall historic events, Germany Reunification. Again we are not doing nobody justice by trying to compress one or two sentences to describe and explain the horrors or life, events those that fought, sacrificed, contributed and their belief.
Mr Walter Edmond/Westerholt had become a fully qualify and trained engineer in refrigeration, air conditioning and cold storage. His aspiration and ambition to help changer Seychelles so that instead of the life the young Seychellois lived in the pre independence can be changed, different. He was borne in Tanganyika and grew up in tow of the East African countries as a child. In the first instance his adoptive father who had worked on one of the biggest sisal Estate as Plantation Manager – independence in East Africa and their hard work, life, they also having to migrate or flee in instance. His adoptive father is buried in Tanganyika – mother in England. They were related to the late Leader of the Exile Opposition Mr Gerrard Houreau's family.
In the battle which ensued – the decision to use military force to remove the government or change Seychelles most of our communities in Europe were involved in one form or another. They Exile camp they choose to support. Not just morally but financially. On account of our important involvement, those in Berlin and Germany who decided use Mr Walter Edmond/Westerholt as an Agent for our interests and issues. These media criminals who have tried to kill, eradicate and contribute to forget what took place really and invent, - put their own brand and view of events. Then they wander that there are terrible spill over in society – those who revert to violence. Not because they love it – because they are force and compel to by the establishment, their lies, corruption and cover up, manipulation.
In London we had set in place UKSCA and our Executive committee, the assassination of Mr Gerrard Houreau – those who called and requested that we take some form of leading responsibility. This did not go unnoticed in Berlin, East or West Germany.
There is a famous saying “the grass is greener on the other side and nobody is born a prophet in his country” this became applicable to us. The family division which ensued.
At the time there was DP of former Minister David Joubert, SNM/MPR lead by Mr Gabriel Houreau, Mr Edmond Camille, Mr Robert Frichot, Mr Andre Uzice Faction – Party later the CDU merging with Dr Maxime Ferrari, Mr Phillipe Boule SNP, ex President Mancham MPRD movement, UKSCA and unofficial SIROP program. In Seychelles all these faction and parties were represented, had their respective supporters.
We have stated enough our responsibilities and historic decision not to use military force, violence to change Seychelles like the many other parties and faction would have desired and wished – the SIROP Exile return program.
Those in Europe, their media, politicians , police , judiciary terrible lies, dishonesty, hypocrisy – they dare talk about Terrorism. - they had mostly supported the use of violence and military force to change Seychelles. Because we had refused, we had concepted a unique visionary possibilities – their order to have us executed and killed and in our place put somebody else. Thus began the division in our families, church and friends.
Mr Walter Houreau/ Edmond/Westerholt found himself being courted by faction of the SNM and DP – his decision to contribute financially. Most important his financial contribution and money he lent to the DP party leaders for the acquisition of a modern printing press for the Party, some 10 years later the debacle, accusations, recrimination and Court case.
Everybody thought after 1991, the return of Multi party in Seychelles, Seychelles would change for ever, his decision to sell whatever he had acquired, leave family and friends in Germany, Berlin and return to Seychelles. We will not bother to go onto some of the issues. We will take this opportunity to say this much. There exist only a very small percentage of honesty among the political, judicial, policing, government agencies of Europe towards Small and developing Nations – their corrupted evil intentions. Had they done this with some of the Nation of the exCOMECON they would have rued, they would have been made to pay a very bitter price – In any event they have paid and were made to pay for their dishonesty and lies, so of the very terrible events and issues – the mess and re=son we are were we are today. We may be small in number but we have the same rights and privilege to sue our European ancestral many archaic, Christian heritage mechanism with out their approval, consent and say so. As have done our ancestors in the past.
After events of 1991, all those who had hope, expected that among the changes, working life, compensation, opportunities and possibilities. He was no exception. He discovered and found a very nice family – their daughter and they got married. From the wild person he decided to become a family man. Then the arrival of the two boys.
On our AKS forum and indeed many of the local papers the argument and those strangers, those people to our country and land who have not done a thing to help change their attitude,argument and arrogance. The Seychellois is lazy, they do not want to work – they have to put forget them self into the shoe of those native who have gone through such traumatized experience, with out government help as they get in Europe start from scratch.
Then came the Reclamation Project, Phase ll Development. Those who had questioned what FA Rene was doing – those who had lived in exile and say certain opportunity. In spite the very terrible situation they had to live and work, exist in. After the completion those who managed to get a Business Plot – his business plot was at Providence. We ask the wife and wives the children and all those who had to go through this ordeal and process – the state of Seychelles then – Meanwhile the discovery that some $2.8 billions have been stolen, creamed off and fleeced – yet in Exile we could not find and approach anybody who would finance a Military coup with all associated cost for $10 millions. ( the mathematic and reasoning for their investment they would have demanded and expected a large share of the cake/pie. SIROP having fought lady Tacther, many in EU , the USA, OAU and UN did not want to go down that road.)
Because of our inability to return to Seychelles in 1991 – beside some of the Didon family members we had appointed Mr Walter Houreau/Edmond/Westerholt as an Agent for some of our affairs. Those that did know this in Seychelles. The bitter battle which ensued. His contribution to help in some of the government compensation for the property they acquired, private property and money FA Rene and GMR Associate/Syndicate owe me as a Consultant – my responsibilities head of IOIMF not just Seychelles – the Indian Ocean. Again all those who knew the issues in Seychelles.
Everybody knows if you want to run a successful business specially in a small country like Seychelles the need to have friends from all quarters, side and parties. It is a very thin and slippery sheet of Ice one is walking or skating on.
We visited Seychelles in 2000 and 2004 – his wish and my wish to build a Home in Seychelles. The Tsunami in 2004/5 and the economic Tsunami of September/October 2008. The development and state of thing in Seychelles.
Having said that, we see around us in Mumbai, Somali and very many other places instead of letting the bitterness turn us into a demon – we have manage and learn to use these negative force for other purpose and our Seychelles EU community project portal – the mega benefits is has brought to Seychelles, the crooked and very corrupted politicians, the region, African Union, The Asian Nations and European Nations. To prove we are not wrong we could close down that portal project for a few months and study the impact and negative phenomena wish will develop – our situation, the EU and world situation will be far worse than it is today.
We deplore what is taking place in Seychelles, this is the time when government ought to be sensitive – specially to those who have played a role in stabilizing, positive changes in that nation call Seychelles. The families not family with young children, their education and future. Because they will remember and be bitter. Those who have gone to their grave with their $billions and millions do not care.
Our EU communities have contact with other Seychelles communities across the world, including NewZealand. In years gone by we would have modestly reverted to silence – the important contributions and hand involved in the making and concepting the Film Lords of the Ring in New Zealand. We do not get involve in these issues because we are dreaming – we are trained in those discipline and responsibilities. Be they the Scandinavian, Russian, Germanic, French who know the issue of the Ring. Then the British.
We had – our Seychelles EU community aspires to build Seychelles like Newzealand has become, the multiracial – the peaceful existence, respect for the native and the European who have come to conquer and settle there. Newzealand today for the young and old.
We have not done a “very great job as they say” to highlight the contribution of one of our native son to change Seychelles, his families and children.
Seychelles is facing and running into grave danger, their native son leaving and their families – the Indian and other coming in to take or replace them. It taken time for people to learn how a culture, language and people think and work. There are very serious danger of a situation developing of many frustrated you g Seychellois saying we have been conned enough, rob enough, ripped enough – they revert to violence and the destruction, backlash and terrible tragedy this will be for the country and Seychelles. So call democracy is very young and is just beginning to grow adapt itself in Seychelles- the very serious danger it/they face.
We have not mentioned the role of the interfering nations be they USA, British and Many others their role – they have a very thick bank account and do not have to do business or their children live in Seychelles – they create their particular mess , they leave and that is it. They cal this support of democracy, justice and whatever else.
We also wrote a long thread in 2005 about the very ugly "chouchoute" in Seychelles we left at the Office of Mr Phillipe Boule with his private Secretary - we ask readers to review this thread. Those who are half educate and understand when we talk of "chouchoute" what we sometime mean
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Saturday, 29 November 2008
Is there anything Historic about this Saturday/weekend 29/11/08
Is there anything Historic about this Saturday/weekend 29/11/08
Given that German boast of its industrial leadership in EU and the world, GRUBI provocative thread at AKS on the state of Seychelles finance - economy, total meltdown in Seychelles – 20 years ago, 1988 President Gorbachev crises. Those American and European politician who had refused to notice and realize that something was wrong, had gone “ pear shape “ with the situation in USSR, instead they just got on their crazy horse and thundered ahead the situation we are in today.
Out in that very big world – we use this word, because of the inability for anybody to be able to communicate with everybody in the world. Hence we have to use terminology and language that hopefully will be understood.
Both in the former Communist and Capitalist – Western world those who were trained , form and took part in the review and formulating every Ten or Twenty years the course of politic, economy of those two great universal Blocks. We are in this critical world cycle, the leading media, world leaders failing to have a cool head to properly approache history, what has happened the past 10 – 20 years and formulate future world police for the next 10 years.
Among somee of the- what may be termed abnormal or strange phenomena which is associated or present itself which serve as signal and indication that changes is needed . Those again from the leading USA establishment or EU who are just “plowing ahead with their/on their mad horse” totally failing to grasp what really is happening and they call themselves world leaders – demanding and bullying everybody to respect them.
We have written at least three thread since the beginning of the year on the issues that – that reckless and ruthless, corrupted capitalist system cannot go on for ever. What went wrong – that President Gorbachev did/could not grasp the opportunity and remodel the USSR/Russia as a new world role model for economy and social order. That was 1988.
In EU and the Indian Ocean that SIROP etc Exile Return program was at its peak of being implemented. The thinking was behind. In Seychelles, Africa those who have been schooled to understand the issue we mentioned about, the cycle of the world working every 10 and 20 years the need to understand what has , is hapenning and formulate new direction of new political ideas ahead for the next 10 years or so.
Who would have thought and said two months ago that Lehman Brothers one of the most prestigious Jewish financial institution would not be there. Among and beside very many other very important financial institutions which have gone. Why we mention the name Grubi because in Seychelles, Mauritius and the Region those who very dishonestly refused to admit that that German Berlin Wall, collapse in East Germany and reunification had a very fundamental impact on their economy and politic and social development.
This had come about not by accident or mishap as many would be politicians, fraternal, Cristian and media leaders would have us believe – some individuals got together and planned it. Not the Pentagon or the CIA as those who do not know shout aloud.
Because in Seychelles, Mauritius and the Indian ocean, Africa and the Arab region we have such very important link with not Commonwealth but British politic, economy, finance and other quasi fraternal/archaic related issues. Again two months ago those arrogant very big British multinational Bank and we had been involved – lent a hand in the many mergers over the past 20 years, issues related to the changes in former COMECON, socialist/Communist camp and our part of the world. Leading to the Group of RBS, their plan – this weekend development - the British government becoming a major share holder with 59% equally their acquisition of the Northern Rock.
Those political voice in the world,.Africa, Asia, Arab region including Seychelles two months ago had one even dared to suggest it, would have demanded that one be executed, sent to a place like Guantanamo or use special legislation and lock up.
It cannot be said enough , 20 and 10 years ago the development course of the world was planned, there were those who was there giving direction. They had foreseen the situation and what could – would happen if they had not seceded and put together a direction for the future world. We would not be in the situation of Pirates in Somali or the recent situation in Bombay – Mumbai or the situation in Asia and elsewhere. We would have been in the middle of a Nuclear Holocaust and mankind completely destroyed. That would have been the result and situation then.
Having said that, only this week in London the conference of those ex world Head of state and other so called great thinkers to discuss peace and harmony. Such gathering and individuals cannot and will never be in the position to foster such great changes the world and humanity requires to survive. These individuals they have the capacity to think , deliberate. Their Solution is not new and very corrupted and untrustworthy. Yet the media of the world give them all their support and publicity. Had somebody come along unknown with an idea and concept that would radically change the world they – the media would be the first to shout kill him and away with him as they have done in the past. Including those gathering of the ex heads of states and world leaders in London. They have become entrapped with their own thinking, belief and judgments.
We have also mentioned two other events – the fire that gutted the SDA General Conference in Stanborough Park, those and the many form the SDA communities in Europe, America, Canada, Australia, South African who know what we are talking about – the state of spiritualness of the church goers and believers had been going down a very terrible slope. Linked to the very corrupted, global corporate Western capitalist practice which affected moral, religious values, education , family life and very many other terrible related social issues. The SDA who had been pro active 250 years ago against such issues they have been taken or overtaken by the very big social, political and corporate corrupted Tsunami. What the SDA stood for 50 – 100 years ago. This event marking, signaling that something is fundamentally very wrong somewhere.
This week we have come across a number of unique not elderly but aging individuals, not rich who with their eyes have been asking and questioning the state of things, where are we going so to say – the very great gravity of the world situation. Yet the inability of the Leading political establishment, the very many leading world institutions – who have hijacked many of those agendas and replaced them with their own very corrupted ones, for greed and big money. The world and society is at their mercy. They dare point fingers , in the time gone by of the Kings and Emperors these individuals would have been mobbed, they would have had to answer to the crowd and the mobs – today all the legislations, laws in place and those very corrupted individuals who know how to use the legislation, resource to their corrupted advantages and they point fingers to others.
Next week it is schedule that there will be one of the biggest world gathering of media and those involve in Athene to discuss, debate the role of the media in the world, today and its impact and very many other issues. What cannot be deny, the very terrible state of the world – the media is responsible, the vast practice, those who go about selling their respective products and views. The Soddy madness which have engulfed the world. Instead of enlightening the world. There are very few capable to stand them and think clearly.
Equally as we had a situation in 1988 with the IMF or UN or World,Bank their inability to foresee what could happen – they had not foreseen the changes in COMECON, USSR, EU and African Union. Yet the media circus, and the dishonest charade. The way they gather their information and formulate their respective institution policies. What must not be forgotten the vast resource of those world institutions, the vast amount of information, ideas, recommendations and innovative concept that get presented to them and where they all or mostly land where, in the dustbin , the store room or some basements. And those who have been elected follow their very wrong and corrupted recommendation, the wastage of resource, money, human lives and time. This is not about to change if anything it will get worse.
Having said that – the terrible state of the video, film and entertainment industry – the world and those who may or would have been wishing to do something numbed by the ruthless, marketing and role of money in those industry. the state of the human 20 – 10 years ago, those who reminded us of the 1, 2nd and other real wars they had seen and taken part in. Those they termed and praise a super Stars, the media corrupted practice, be they TV or paper. In time gone by children were ask to respect nums, priest – today our children and youth are being forced to respect and praise “the Stars” the very scummey way they made their wealth and go to the top of the heap.
This week end also saw the death of the oldest person in the world – what this mean, the complex phenomena associated with it – leave aside the media circus. The same phenomena 20 years ago and that of 10 years ago.
We had long wanted to write an article on the Somalia situation, refrained for fear those who would say we sympathize with killers etc and the various Terrorism legislation in place. Those people they played a crucial in our Seychelles, OAU, Indian ocean political process – the changes which came about be it in Mauritius, Seychelles, Madagascar, Reunion, Comor, Sir Lanka, Maldive. Those with the ability to cash and make positive gain. Yet we have a situation – the solution and approach of the UN, the USDA, EU and the international community towards the Somali people. Given the issues we have addressed and presented over the past 15 years - we would have wanted to make a positive contribution to Somalia. We contributed that the Headquarter of the African Union be placed in Ethiopia this statement is to be taken seriously, the process and mechanism and the very important impact on that nation and people – because we understand some of the very complex mechanics. For instance had one of African Union leading Court be housed in Somali the important impact there would have bee n. Not forgetting our role to build the duplicate of St Peter Basilica in Africa.
Many had hope that like the Channel Tunnel had this project been given greater support by the world – the fact that it will have to run through Somalia on its journey South.
The Somali people need to be pulled, catapulted, or bulldozed back into the political process of the region – not ignored and neglected or every bloody mad lunatic come along and formulate their policies. They are surrounded by nations who have achieved, nations who are developing at important pace and they are being left behind - Those in the world be it EU, USA which for their own corrupted reason need to sell their arms, needed to make big military contracts, need to to make their dirty politic on the back of people to prove their importance and power, superiority. Today we have a people and nation going and experiencing human situation far worse and as bad ad the German/Nazi of the second world war. They are humans as we all are , not that/is a Jew and the other Black. We throw the blame on those politicians of our Region. They have embraced American and EU legislation which cuts out the good work of NGO, the government controls everything and the NGO get to come in only or if allowed. The Terrorist political formula which have been developed around the nation of Somalia. Shame on those head of state and political leaders – mind you they did very little way back 20 – 10 years ago. It was the few individuals who got very positive action going and those , the UN and the media were their like wile animals to take credit and benefit for such individuals. Unless there is a very radical change in term of what solution to bring t that region and people - if we go along the same course as we have – then the world can expect far more terrible incidents.
We trust and hope somebody will point our thread to GRUBI. By the way is is not proper and gentleman to say what one seen “in the look and the eye of a woman or lady”. The mega challenge chancellor Angela Merkle have to face and confront. She forget why she was elected, they all go about taking example of Lady Tacther and they do not know who she was. The uniqueness about woman prime minister or president – they have the gift to being able to radically embrace a new idea or direction. Chancellor Merkle forget that she came of the East, the state then , the state the past 20 years and the call of leading East politicians.
Having said what we have about the Gorbachev incident and the decision for those who had wanted to putsch and what the putsch was all about. Because they had not not wanted Communist – they had wanted a USSR to maintain some of the Socialist mechanism. Today we are at this juncture. In spite of EU and many lager government and world bodies putting $Trillions in economy to get it revive – the greedy ruthless capitalist spiral cannot continue.
By the way even if we have promoted the concept of 1000Venture.com of Prof ;; .... he himself is not fully aware why, what inspired him to concept his e- coach on the model he did and the first critics that it was not like the usual management coaching concepts and systems. - we had supported this because of its uniqueness , there are very many leading institution in the word – this concept is a cross breed, we had expected and trust would influence the world importantly and those doing business. Just as Richard Branson in his early days had good intention then he became engulf with the corrupted and terrible practice and the uniqueness of his business concept started under lady Tachter have been swallowed and gobbled up by the terrible practice and state of things.
We have written a very great deal on India -, the impact of the issues , work and events of the region like Seychelles and the so call smaller nations. Those who have miss presented why and how India have come about to be such an important nation and economy, the terrible practice. The collapse of the financial system and economy. The philosophy of the Indian Nation – at the same time, the high percentage of poverty and those who have been building their empires on the back of the poor, again those in the West for their capitalist and greedy reason who have supported this thinking. The vast and important under current does not get reported, it get reported only when some thing terrible happens. Those living in Britain or France or Italy know what we are talking about. Living in Britain,. France Italy and is not a bed of rose every day – life is hell, the media make their money and profit on the back of it. In India the hell is on a bigger scale of the poor and the oppressed, those who are making their billions on their backs. The reckless speed and space of development cannot be sustained. There is a call for greater understanding for the vast percentage who have nothing. If this is not heeded as many leading French and German analyst have voiced their concern something terrible will inevitable happen.
Given that German boast of its industrial leadership in EU and the world, GRUBI provocative thread at AKS on the state of Seychelles finance - economy, total meltdown in Seychelles – 20 years ago, 1988 President Gorbachev crises. Those American and European politician who had refused to notice and realize that something was wrong, had gone “ pear shape “ with the situation in USSR, instead they just got on their crazy horse and thundered ahead the situation we are in today.
Out in that very big world – we use this word, because of the inability for anybody to be able to communicate with everybody in the world. Hence we have to use terminology and language that hopefully will be understood.
Both in the former Communist and Capitalist – Western world those who were trained , form and took part in the review and formulating every Ten or Twenty years the course of politic, economy of those two great universal Blocks. We are in this critical world cycle, the leading media, world leaders failing to have a cool head to properly approache history, what has happened the past 10 – 20 years and formulate future world police for the next 10 years.
Among somee of the- what may be termed abnormal or strange phenomena which is associated or present itself which serve as signal and indication that changes is needed . Those again from the leading USA establishment or EU who are just “plowing ahead with their/on their mad horse” totally failing to grasp what really is happening and they call themselves world leaders – demanding and bullying everybody to respect them.
We have written at least three thread since the beginning of the year on the issues that – that reckless and ruthless, corrupted capitalist system cannot go on for ever. What went wrong – that President Gorbachev did/could not grasp the opportunity and remodel the USSR/Russia as a new world role model for economy and social order. That was 1988.
In EU and the Indian Ocean that SIROP etc Exile Return program was at its peak of being implemented. The thinking was behind. In Seychelles, Africa those who have been schooled to understand the issue we mentioned about, the cycle of the world working every 10 and 20 years the need to understand what has , is hapenning and formulate new direction of new political ideas ahead for the next 10 years or so.
Who would have thought and said two months ago that Lehman Brothers one of the most prestigious Jewish financial institution would not be there. Among and beside very many other very important financial institutions which have gone. Why we mention the name Grubi because in Seychelles, Mauritius and the Region those who very dishonestly refused to admit that that German Berlin Wall, collapse in East Germany and reunification had a very fundamental impact on their economy and politic and social development.
This had come about not by accident or mishap as many would be politicians, fraternal, Cristian and media leaders would have us believe – some individuals got together and planned it. Not the Pentagon or the CIA as those who do not know shout aloud.
Because in Seychelles, Mauritius and the Indian ocean, Africa and the Arab region we have such very important link with not Commonwealth but British politic, economy, finance and other quasi fraternal/archaic related issues. Again two months ago those arrogant very big British multinational Bank and we had been involved – lent a hand in the many mergers over the past 20 years, issues related to the changes in former COMECON, socialist/Communist camp and our part of the world. Leading to the Group of RBS, their plan – this weekend development - the British government becoming a major share holder with 59% equally their acquisition of the Northern Rock.
Those political voice in the world,.Africa, Asia, Arab region including Seychelles two months ago had one even dared to suggest it, would have demanded that one be executed, sent to a place like Guantanamo or use special legislation and lock up.
It cannot be said enough , 20 and 10 years ago the development course of the world was planned, there were those who was there giving direction. They had foreseen the situation and what could – would happen if they had not seceded and put together a direction for the future world. We would not be in the situation of Pirates in Somali or the recent situation in Bombay – Mumbai or the situation in Asia and elsewhere. We would have been in the middle of a Nuclear Holocaust and mankind completely destroyed. That would have been the result and situation then.
Having said that, only this week in London the conference of those ex world Head of state and other so called great thinkers to discuss peace and harmony. Such gathering and individuals cannot and will never be in the position to foster such great changes the world and humanity requires to survive. These individuals they have the capacity to think , deliberate. Their Solution is not new and very corrupted and untrustworthy. Yet the media of the world give them all their support and publicity. Had somebody come along unknown with an idea and concept that would radically change the world they – the media would be the first to shout kill him and away with him as they have done in the past. Including those gathering of the ex heads of states and world leaders in London. They have become entrapped with their own thinking, belief and judgments.
We have also mentioned two other events – the fire that gutted the SDA General Conference in Stanborough Park, those and the many form the SDA communities in Europe, America, Canada, Australia, South African who know what we are talking about – the state of spiritualness of the church goers and believers had been going down a very terrible slope. Linked to the very corrupted, global corporate Western capitalist practice which affected moral, religious values, education , family life and very many other terrible related social issues. The SDA who had been pro active 250 years ago against such issues they have been taken or overtaken by the very big social, political and corporate corrupted Tsunami. What the SDA stood for 50 – 100 years ago. This event marking, signaling that something is fundamentally very wrong somewhere.
This week we have come across a number of unique not elderly but aging individuals, not rich who with their eyes have been asking and questioning the state of things, where are we going so to say – the very great gravity of the world situation. Yet the inability of the Leading political establishment, the very many leading world institutions – who have hijacked many of those agendas and replaced them with their own very corrupted ones, for greed and big money. The world and society is at their mercy. They dare point fingers , in the time gone by of the Kings and Emperors these individuals would have been mobbed, they would have had to answer to the crowd and the mobs – today all the legislations, laws in place and those very corrupted individuals who know how to use the legislation, resource to their corrupted advantages and they point fingers to others.
Next week it is schedule that there will be one of the biggest world gathering of media and those involve in Athene to discuss, debate the role of the media in the world, today and its impact and very many other issues. What cannot be deny, the very terrible state of the world – the media is responsible, the vast practice, those who go about selling their respective products and views. The Soddy madness which have engulfed the world. Instead of enlightening the world. There are very few capable to stand them and think clearly.
Equally as we had a situation in 1988 with the IMF or UN or World,Bank their inability to foresee what could happen – they had not foreseen the changes in COMECON, USSR, EU and African Union. Yet the media circus, and the dishonest charade. The way they gather their information and formulate their respective institution policies. What must not be forgotten the vast resource of those world institutions, the vast amount of information, ideas, recommendations and innovative concept that get presented to them and where they all or mostly land where, in the dustbin , the store room or some basements. And those who have been elected follow their very wrong and corrupted recommendation, the wastage of resource, money, human lives and time. This is not about to change if anything it will get worse.
Having said that – the terrible state of the video, film and entertainment industry – the world and those who may or would have been wishing to do something numbed by the ruthless, marketing and role of money in those industry. the state of the human 20 – 10 years ago, those who reminded us of the 1, 2nd and other real wars they had seen and taken part in. Those they termed and praise a super Stars, the media corrupted practice, be they TV or paper. In time gone by children were ask to respect nums, priest – today our children and youth are being forced to respect and praise “the Stars” the very scummey way they made their wealth and go to the top of the heap.
This week end also saw the death of the oldest person in the world – what this mean, the complex phenomena associated with it – leave aside the media circus. The same phenomena 20 years ago and that of 10 years ago.
We had long wanted to write an article on the Somalia situation, refrained for fear those who would say we sympathize with killers etc and the various Terrorism legislation in place. Those people they played a crucial in our Seychelles, OAU, Indian ocean political process – the changes which came about be it in Mauritius, Seychelles, Madagascar, Reunion, Comor, Sir Lanka, Maldive. Those with the ability to cash and make positive gain. Yet we have a situation – the solution and approach of the UN, the USDA, EU and the international community towards the Somali people. Given the issues we have addressed and presented over the past 15 years - we would have wanted to make a positive contribution to Somalia. We contributed that the Headquarter of the African Union be placed in Ethiopia this statement is to be taken seriously, the process and mechanism and the very important impact on that nation and people – because we understand some of the very complex mechanics. For instance had one of African Union leading Court be housed in Somali the important impact there would have bee n. Not forgetting our role to build the duplicate of St Peter Basilica in Africa.
Many had hope that like the Channel Tunnel had this project been given greater support by the world – the fact that it will have to run through Somalia on its journey South.
The Somali people need to be pulled, catapulted, or bulldozed back into the political process of the region – not ignored and neglected or every bloody mad lunatic come along and formulate their policies. They are surrounded by nations who have achieved, nations who are developing at important pace and they are being left behind - Those in the world be it EU, USA which for their own corrupted reason need to sell their arms, needed to make big military contracts, need to to make their dirty politic on the back of people to prove their importance and power, superiority. Today we have a people and nation going and experiencing human situation far worse and as bad ad the German/Nazi of the second world war. They are humans as we all are , not that/is a Jew and the other Black. We throw the blame on those politicians of our Region. They have embraced American and EU legislation which cuts out the good work of NGO, the government controls everything and the NGO get to come in only or if allowed. The Terrorist political formula which have been developed around the nation of Somalia. Shame on those head of state and political leaders – mind you they did very little way back 20 – 10 years ago. It was the few individuals who got very positive action going and those , the UN and the media were their like wile animals to take credit and benefit for such individuals. Unless there is a very radical change in term of what solution to bring t that region and people - if we go along the same course as we have – then the world can expect far more terrible incidents.
We trust and hope somebody will point our thread to GRUBI. By the way is is not proper and gentleman to say what one seen “in the look and the eye of a woman or lady”. The mega challenge chancellor Angela Merkle have to face and confront. She forget why she was elected, they all go about taking example of Lady Tacther and they do not know who she was. The uniqueness about woman prime minister or president – they have the gift to being able to radically embrace a new idea or direction. Chancellor Merkle forget that she came of the East, the state then , the state the past 20 years and the call of leading East politicians.
Having said what we have about the Gorbachev incident and the decision for those who had wanted to putsch and what the putsch was all about. Because they had not not wanted Communist – they had wanted a USSR to maintain some of the Socialist mechanism. Today we are at this juncture. In spite of EU and many lager government and world bodies putting $Trillions in economy to get it revive – the greedy ruthless capitalist spiral cannot continue.
By the way even if we have promoted the concept of 1000Venture.com of Prof ;; .... he himself is not fully aware why, what inspired him to concept his e- coach on the model he did and the first critics that it was not like the usual management coaching concepts and systems. - we had supported this because of its uniqueness , there are very many leading institution in the word – this concept is a cross breed, we had expected and trust would influence the world importantly and those doing business. Just as Richard Branson in his early days had good intention then he became engulf with the corrupted and terrible practice and the uniqueness of his business concept started under lady Tachter have been swallowed and gobbled up by the terrible practice and state of things.
We have written a very great deal on India -, the impact of the issues , work and events of the region like Seychelles and the so call smaller nations. Those who have miss presented why and how India have come about to be such an important nation and economy, the terrible practice. The collapse of the financial system and economy. The philosophy of the Indian Nation – at the same time, the high percentage of poverty and those who have been building their empires on the back of the poor, again those in the West for their capitalist and greedy reason who have supported this thinking. The vast and important under current does not get reported, it get reported only when some thing terrible happens. Those living in Britain or France or Italy know what we are talking about. Living in Britain,. France Italy and is not a bed of rose every day – life is hell, the media make their money and profit on the back of it. In India the hell is on a bigger scale of the poor and the oppressed, those who are making their billions on their backs. The reckless speed and space of development cannot be sustained. There is a call for greater understanding for the vast percentage who have nothing. If this is not heeded as many leading French and German analyst have voiced their concern something terrible will inevitable happen.
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